Message from @NoobDad

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2020-11-21 15:58:17 UTC  

@Zuluzeit But he didn't, he signed the executive order in preparation for this.

2020-11-21 15:59:20 UTC  

Hahahaha yeah we didn't see that coming. Seems like It would have been a better idea to expose and fix. I do understand he was busy. Priorities.

2020-11-21 16:00:31 UTC  

He sat on his hands for 4 years after the 4 years from when he initially knew. 3d chess.

2020-11-21 16:00:41 UTC  

Here was an analysis of the machines in 2017:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/779738063135440906/unknown.png

2020-11-21 16:00:57 UTC  

@NoobDad I've watched the video a couple of times now. The detailed breakdown that Ramsland gives is for ES&S Electionware systems.

2020-11-21 16:01:10 UTC  

Yeah... You can see it on that screenshot.

2020-11-21 16:02:36 UTC  

In the beginning he explains that each of the companies are based on the same open-source software

2020-11-21 16:02:55 UTC  

TX went through and RFP process to find a new voting system vendor. Dominion was one that submitted a response, but they were rejected because it didn't meet all of the RFP features that TX was looking for. This is not unusual.

2020-11-21 16:03:50 UTC  

You can see exactly why TX rejected Dominion here: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/laws/dominion.shtml

2020-11-21 16:04:28 UTC  

Their finding reported that votes could be changed by outside players undetected, either NO audit trail (Hart) or erasable or changeable audit trail (ES&S, Dominion, etc.) so no evidence of vote changing can be found

2020-11-21 16:05:35 UTC  

No, the president and everyone else knew about this critical flaw since 2012 and the only thing Trump bothered to do was hedge before the 2020 election. Sounds legit.

2020-11-21 16:06:02 UTC  

Except Texas. God bless Texas.

2020-11-21 16:06:17 UTC  

@Zuluzeit He was getting hammered by impeachment, Russia collusion, spying.

2020-11-21 16:06:36 UTC  

Yeah, busy guy. I get it, man.

2020-11-21 16:07:29 UTC  

He did find time for a few other things though. Just not this one.

2020-11-21 16:07:53 UTC  

I read through several of the reports from the last submittal by Dominion - their v5.5A version. They identified concerns about difficulties in setting up the demonstration system. The fact that machines had an ethernet port (citing that they could not ensure that precincts would not plug them in). They also thought that the application logging was insufficient. For example, not recording notifications of unauthorized USB devices being plugged in. These were recorded in the system log, but Election managers would not be able to find it easily.

2020-11-21 16:08:58 UTC  

@TaLoN132 why do you believe them? @RobertGrulerEsq, in his last show, presented how they had manipulative language on their site.

2020-11-21 16:09:27 UTC  

What do you feel their position should be?

2020-11-21 16:09:28 UTC  

Trump did do something... He formed CISA under the DHS. I did some research on the head of CISA and he seems very legit - even after Trump fired him last week.

2020-11-21 16:09:30 UTC  

Anyway, for those who don't think machines are connected to the internet...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/779740283569963038/unknown.png

2020-11-21 16:10:22 UTC  

They use a "cloud based architecture". I can't read the names, but this is the Dallas County Voting architecture. It was hosted on AWS machines.

2020-11-21 16:10:52 UTC  

Oh, so the very mechanism he put in place found things to be acceptable. Perhaps they are part of the conspiracy. Hard to say.

2020-11-21 16:11:01 UTC  

You can see it's multiple machines, and it's standard business practice for companies to operate in this manner as @TaLoN132 would agree.

2020-11-21 16:11:55 UTC  

If you do not have the proper security set in place for the entire system, one of these services can be compromised.

2020-11-21 16:12:38 UTC  

AWS by the way hosts multiple servers ALL OVER THE WORLD. So it's very easy to imagine that the servers were hosted in Frankfurt, Germany or in Spain

2020-11-21 16:13:26 UTC  

AWS hosts the machines all over the world to reduce latency and to allow redundancy for companies. If I have my application hosted in CA and Japan, then if an earthquake hits CA, my application will still run because it's housed in Japan

2020-11-21 16:13:43 UTC  

@NoobDad What I got from the last show is that he was trying to evaluate the denials for language that he might be able to ascertain hidden meaning in the language that they chose to use. I am guessing he was taking this from a legal perspective. With as quickly that these refutations were posted, I'm not sure we can assume that they were put together by a lawyer. It could have been a nerd like me.

2020-11-21 16:13:44 UTC  

This is standard practice in the industry.

2020-11-21 16:13:48 UTC  

Probably would have been a lot of pushback from Amazon if the government was trying to seize servers from one of their data centers. It sounds like the servers (if they were seized) belongd to a Scytl data center.

2020-11-21 16:13:54 UTC  

If all of the agencies, including the one implemented to validate specifically this stuff, are willing to turn a blind eye, we are truly lost.

2020-11-21 16:14:38 UTC  

@linuxace Yea, you're probably right, but I'm just saying if they're hosted on AWS, it's not that big of a leap to say a server was in Germany too

2020-11-21 16:15:02 UTC  

it could have been a "mis-click" or something, who knows, AWS product line is very complicated

2020-11-21 16:15:20 UTC  

Spec. You. Lay. Shun.

2020-11-21 16:15:20 UTC  

@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 11!

2020-11-21 16:15:30 UTC  

I'm just saying it's not that hard to belive taht a server is on foreign soil if they're using a cloud-based architecture

2020-11-21 16:15:39 UTC  

Did any actual evidence of this dominon thing get argued in court yet

2020-11-21 16:15:40 UTC  

@james j, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-11-21 16:15:50 UTC  

The initial source of the Scytl story was a Tweet that was found in German that said that Scytl was being raided in Frankfurt. That's all it took to get the rumor mill going. The Army has denied it. Scytl has denied it saying that they don't have offices or servers in Frankfurt.

2020-11-21 16:16:11 UTC  

@james j Russell Ramsland signed an affidavit as part of the Lin Wood Georgia appeal, but it was rejected for standing, but I'm assuming they're appealing.

2020-11-21 16:16:19 UTC  

He's part of this process.

2020-11-21 16:16:34 UTC  

I don't think the military would raid it to begin with.