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@NoobDad they did a hand count in Georgia with physical ballots. The theory is that ballots were brought in late at night. Once the ballot is at the polling station the envelope with the name of the voter is thrown out. There is no way to prove this theory

@james j Affidavits are witnessed by notaries which are representatives of the state.

I'm pretty sure an affidavit has to be witnessed by a notary to be valid.

Yeah but the person is not held responsible until they get to court to testify

Eh? It's a statement under oath.

Witnessed.

By government officials.

The lawyer that has the affidavit to can go after the person that made the affidavit if he finds out they lied. There is no way trumps lawyers are going after these people

You're not swearing this to the lawyer, you're swearing this to the notary.

A commissioner of oaths.

Lying on an affidavit might not be perjury unless it's filed or something. I have no idea. I would imagine that once any legal process is predicated upon it, you have problems for sure, tho.

This is why things like this exist under affidavits.

@james j I don't think the envelopes are thrown away, initially. They lose their utility, because they are separated from the ballots in order to ensure the voters anonymity. The same is true for votes given in person. There is not supposed to be a way to see what a person voted for. When evaluating voting systems in TX, one of their requirements was the ability to assign non-sequential ballot numbers, so poll workers couldn't derive who a person voted for by keeping track of how many people voted at the machine and in what order.

I see @TaLoN132

@Maw this is the one rare occasion of when a trump lawyer appealed to these affidavits in court. https://www.google.com/amp/s/lawandcrime.com/2020-election/trump-campaign-lawyer-admits-to-judge-our-search-for-evidence-of-fraud-produced-obvious-lies-and-spam/amp/

Those wouldn't be valid unless signed by a notary.

That's the point of valid affidavits.

Keyword valid.

@Maw No I was just positing that if someone just stuck it in a drawer and a court never saw it, you might not be able charge someone with perjury as a simple notarized lie.

I have no idea. It was a thought experiment.

Affidavits that are not witnessed by notaries are invalid, pretty sure.

You dont get in trouble if they cant be disproven, which I guess not a very high bar for it being true

That much is true.

If you are to file an affidavit with the court though, I'm pretty sure it has to be valid.

AKA: Signed by a notary.

All a notary does is verify that the person who signs it is who they say they are... They do not get the person to swear an oath.

And i dont think this russel guy is swearing election fraud actually happened in 2020 just that it’s possible. Which I guess anything is possible. @Maw

"The most common notarial acts in the United States are the taking of acknowledgements and oaths."

"All notaries have statutory authority to administer oaths and affirmations."

If you say something that cant be disproven or is just a opinion that doesn’t carry much weight. Thats why many of these affidavits weren’t even used in court @Maw

For instance, cops lie on affidavits all the time but it has to be shown to have an affect in order to be a crime. Maybe the Kraken dream team knows to not present them at a certain point and are only gathering them as a propaganda tool, knowing they will never be seen in court.

Js

@Zuluzeit exactly its just theater

I believe that's specifically called a 'material lie', Zulu.

In legalese. lol

Lol damn lawyerspeak

There is a lot of shifting goalposts it seems here though.