Message from @james j

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2020-11-21 16:53:48 UTC  

so what you do in that case is your bring in fraudulent absentee ballots to match the counts in Central Counting

2020-11-21 16:54:07 UTC  

Boom, you can pass audits

2020-11-21 16:54:54 UTC  

Hi all, my son just arrived, so I'm going to step away. Thanks all, have a great day!

2020-11-21 16:55:03 UTC  

Take care!

2020-11-21 16:55:20 UTC  

Thanks!

2020-11-21 16:56:08 UTC  

@NoobDad they did a hand count in Georgia with physical ballots. The theory is that ballots were brought in late at night. Once the ballot is at the polling station the envelope with the name of the voter is thrown out. There is no way to prove this theory

2020-11-21 16:57:01 UTC  

@james j Affidavits are witnessed by notaries which are representatives of the state.

2020-11-21 16:57:24 UTC  

I'm pretty sure an affidavit has to be witnessed by a notary to be valid.

2020-11-21 16:58:09 UTC  

Yeah but the person is not held responsible until they get to court to testify

2020-11-21 16:58:38 UTC  

Eh? It's a statement under oath.

2020-11-21 16:58:47 UTC  

Witnessed.

2020-11-21 16:58:52 UTC  

By government officials.

2020-11-21 16:58:58 UTC  

The lawyer that has the affidavit to can go after the person that made the affidavit if he finds out they lied. There is no way trumps lawyers are going after these people

2020-11-21 17:00:09 UTC  

You're not swearing this to the lawyer, you're swearing this to the notary.

2020-11-21 17:00:20 UTC  

A commissioner of oaths.

2020-11-21 17:00:22 UTC  

Lying on an affidavit might not be perjury unless it's filed or something. I have no idea. I would imagine that once any legal process is predicated upon it, you have problems for sure, tho.

2020-11-21 17:02:48 UTC  

This is why things like this exist under affidavits.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/779753698783002674/unknown.png

2020-11-21 17:03:11 UTC  

@james j I don't think the envelopes are thrown away, initially. They lose their utility, because they are separated from the ballots in order to ensure the voters anonymity. The same is true for votes given in person. There is not supposed to be a way to see what a person voted for. When evaluating voting systems in TX, one of their requirements was the ability to assign non-sequential ballot numbers, so poll workers couldn't derive who a person voted for by keeping track of how many people voted at the machine and in what order.

2020-11-21 17:03:57 UTC  

I see @TaLoN132

2020-11-21 17:04:36 UTC  
2020-11-21 17:05:29 UTC  

Those wouldn't be valid unless signed by a notary.

2020-11-21 17:05:41 UTC  

That's the point of valid affidavits.

2020-11-21 17:05:47 UTC  

Keyword valid.

2020-11-21 17:06:30 UTC  

@Maw No I was just positing that if someone just stuck it in a drawer and a court never saw it, you might not be able charge someone with perjury as a simple notarized lie.

2020-11-21 17:06:45 UTC  

I have no idea. It was a thought experiment.

2020-11-21 17:07:24 UTC  

Affidavits that are not witnessed by notaries are invalid, pretty sure.

2020-11-21 17:07:41 UTC  

You dont get in trouble if they cant be disproven, which I guess not a very high bar for it being true

2020-11-21 17:07:56 UTC  

That much is true.

2020-11-21 17:08:44 UTC  

If you are to file an affidavit with the court though, I'm pretty sure it has to be valid.

2020-11-21 17:08:52 UTC  

AKA: Signed by a notary.

2020-11-21 17:08:57 UTC  

All a notary does is verify that the person who signs it is who they say they are... They do not get the person to swear an oath.

2020-11-21 17:09:06 UTC  

And i dont think this russel guy is swearing election fraud actually happened in 2020 just that it’s possible. Which I guess anything is possible. @Maw

2020-11-21 17:10:05 UTC  

"The most common notarial acts in the United States are the taking of acknowledgements and oaths."

2020-11-21 17:11:02 UTC  

"All notaries have statutory authority to administer oaths and affirmations."

2020-11-21 17:11:22 UTC  

If you say something that cant be disproven or is just a opinion that doesn’t carry much weight. Thats why many of these affidavits weren’t even used in court @Maw

2020-11-21 17:11:33 UTC  

For instance, cops lie on affidavits all the time but it has to be shown to have an affect in order to be a crime. Maybe the Kraken dream team knows to not present them at a certain point and are only gathering them as a propaganda tool, knowing they will never be seen in court.

2020-11-21 17:11:57 UTC  

Js

2020-11-21 17:11:59 UTC  

@Zuluzeit exactly its just theater

2020-11-21 17:12:02 UTC  

I believe that's specifically called a 'material lie', Zulu.

2020-11-21 17:12:06 UTC  

In legalese. lol