It seems unlikely Russell is lying, especially since he signed an affidavit

@NoobDad I am having a tough time verifying any information he has on his chart. Is that from 2020 presidential election ? The slide before was talking about 2018.

@james j it was before, I think his firm was called in to evaluate Dominion software. You know how Texas stated they rejected the software? It might have been because of this study, but I'm guessing.

An affidavit doesn’t make you beholden to the court it makes you beholden to the lawyer you signed the affidavits over to. So the lawyer can go after you if the affidavit is false not the court @NoobDad

Not sure that's true.

It's considered perjury, pretty sure.

And that's prosecution by the state.

@NoobDad I highly doubt that developers are installing and setting up the systems there are way too many locations. They train installation people. As a developer, I would never go to customer sites to do installations. You are talking about thousands of precincts in GA alone. There are 3rd party integrators and installation technicians that are taught to connect the equipment, configure them, and test them within given parameters. If there are issues, it might get kicked up to a tech support queue. One of the last groups of people involved would be developers.

As it's lying under Oath.

Wait they don’t even use the dominon software in texas? I mean they did the Georgia recount and found no difference @NoobDad

@james j well i'm only 1/3 of the way through Russell's video, but they made it so you could change the votes at Central Counting remotely

@Maw only if you get dragged into court based on your affidavit then you get sworn in. The current state of an affidavit is not a sworn statement

@NoobDad I'm saying that assuming there is a direct connection from the state's voting tabulation systems and the media does not pass the smell test.

@TaLoN132, you just advanced to level 8!

But you just can't do that because there are physical ballots at the polling places that can contradict those resulsts

so what you do in that case is your bring in fraudulent absentee ballots to match the counts in Central Counting

Boom, you can pass audits

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&t=183s&has_verified=1&ab_channel=CDMedia

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@NoobDad they did a hand count in Georgia with physical ballots. The theory is that ballots were brought in late at night. Once the ballot is at the polling station the envelope with the name of the voter is thrown out. There is no way to prove this theory

@james j Affidavits are witnessed by notaries which are representatives of the state.

I'm pretty sure an affidavit has to be witnessed by a notary to be valid.

Yeah but the person is not held responsible until they get to court to testify

Eh? It's a statement under oath.

Witnessed.

By government officials.

The lawyer that has the affidavit to can go after the person that made the affidavit if he finds out they lied. There is no way trumps lawyers are going after these people

You're not swearing this to the lawyer, you're swearing this to the notary.

A commissioner of oaths.

Lying on an affidavit might not be perjury unless it's filed or something. I have no idea. I would imagine that once any legal process is predicated upon it, you have problems for sure, tho.

This is why things like this exist under affidavits.

@james j I don't think the envelopes are thrown away, initially. They lose their utility, because they are separated from the ballots in order to ensure the voters anonymity. The same is true for votes given in person. There is not supposed to be a way to see what a person voted for. When evaluating voting systems in TX, one of their requirements was the ability to assign non-sequential ballot numbers, so poll workers couldn't derive who a person voted for by keeping track of how many people voted at the machine and in what order.

I see @TaLoN132

@Maw this is the one rare occasion of when a trump lawyer appealed to these affidavits in court. https://www.google.com/amp/s/lawandcrime.com/2020-election/trump-campaign-lawyer-admits-to-judge-our-search-for-evidence-of-fraud-produced-obvious-lies-and-spam/amp/

Those wouldn't be valid unless signed by a notary.

That's the point of valid affidavits.

Keyword valid.

@Maw No I was just positing that if someone just stuck it in a drawer and a court never saw it, you might not be able charge someone with perjury as a simple notarized lie.

I have no idea. It was a thought experiment.