It’s frustrating. Can we just get honest people in politics? Lol

That’s all I want personally. It seems that I could handle any left or right as long as there is NO extreme on either part

@linuxace It is also a norwegian gigant octopus living between greenland and iceland.

@Repeat To have any chance of getting honest people in politics, you first need to be able to elect people. You have 80 holders of the CMH and 220 Nobel price winners to choose from in the US.

Political parties is a good way to block that

It’s an anti corruption software used by many Fortune 500 giants.

You’re asking for a bit too much

@JonM16, you just advanced to level 4!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/trump-formally-requests-recount-in-georgia/TXCURGSK7ZE4PJYPQNR4NEI7QY/

Other parties have never really had a chance😞 even before the internet

@Repeat, you just advanced to level 4!

@Repeat You cant have parties and a democracy at the same time.

So similar to Red Owl?

In a representative democracy you elect people. Like when you guys elect sheriffs

Thanks @TaLoN132

The problem isn't that their isn't honest politicians, its figuring out which ones are honest through all of the BS.

@linuxace Here is a rule of the thumb; judge a man by his character and his character by his merits.

@Repeat As someone who also aspires to act with integrity, I'm also incredulous that others are so seemingly willing to compromise their principles for their 15 minutes or in a misguided "ends justifies the means" effort to tip the scales.

"Behold these climbing monkeys, as they climb over and under each other and sometimes tear another down into the mud below" - Nietzsche, Also Sprach Zarathustra

There is no lessor of two evils? Just evil!?

define evil?

self serving?

then vote for the self sacrificing.

Evil=illegal for me

oh, so Mengele wasnt evil?

And just like that, we got to Godwin’s Law

I mean it's the easiest refutation of Illegal=evil

No, no it’s deeper than that for sure. Not going there we are not third world, or at least I chose to believe we aren’t and that we have more sophisticated laws.

well, indeed. They offer themselves as the perfect example. @JonM16

I’m want politicians that don’t break laws. How’s that? Lol

@Repeat Good laws spring out of ethics. But some times they part ways.

The one who breaks the least amount of laws gets my vote

Thus making the definition of legality as "good" very dangerous.

But we don’t have to go that far to refute evil or terrible or worse ideas

Evil is extremely hard to define.

As is good.

Darth Vader and Adolf Hitler thus lends themselves as examples.

Before that it was the Kaiser and Napoleon.

The one who breaks the least amount of laws gets my vote. The irony here

I would like to remind you that the founding fathers were all criminals.

Yes @Doc the definitely were