Message from @Dan_Sundin
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Efforts were made to slow down the post office
Congress had to stop them
Well, doing my civic duty, I went down and turned my Absentee Ballot into a collection station. Come on Man.
Okay so what does that have to do with you not asking for audits and recounts in 2016
This conversation is not coherent
What does that have to do with the mail being slow despite the citizen doing everything correctly
đź‘Ť Yea this is what I meant and James conceded this point
The point about the conversation being non coherent?
You do know that 73.81% of the voters in Maricopa County, Arizona went to Early Voting for a 27 day period of time to vote. Only 6.47% went to their local precincts in Election Day to vote... This very trend was repeated across many states.
You aren't responding to James' questions
True
No that was about you and Dan heh
Ah
The conceded point was about partisans not policing themselves
Audits should be strong and exacting in all processes, regardless. Check the checkers, then check them too. Never let the easy excuses to hid the facts.
You are avoiding the question
1. Where were all the conservatives demanding recounts and audits in 2016 when the margins were even closer. It’s like they all decided to by hyper vigilant all of a sudden about voting, seems odd. This supposes you care about the voting system in its totality
2. How are you justifying blaming the citizen when the mail is slow
Personally I don't think the mail thing matters, as long as the states go by postmarks
You said stop blaming the citizens yet they are being penalized for something that isn’t their fault and they have no control over
@realz yeah but some states are trying to make it so the reception date matters
I’m not blaming the citizens from slowing down the mail. Just stop the useless junk mail ... kind of what you do with the junk email and spam.
No one is blaming the citizens for slowing the mail. You said the citizens should not be blamed. However if they do everything right the post office can still invalidate their vote by just being slow @Dan_Sundin
My comments made for Citizens/ Voters being the cause for the Overvote and Undervote... which was the subject for my post to begin with.
Yeah the complaints should be directed at them; the post office was never reliable to the day
If you leave it to the time of reception, then you are making something extremely volatile
There is a limit but it’s shouldn’t be the day of the election. There should be a window of 2-3 days especially during a pandemic when you know most people will be voting by mail
@Dan_Sundin that can also extend to all voters not being blamed for the government messing up
I think that no matter what it should be based on postmark
It is
Votes mailed after a certain day don’t get counted
No, the better play is to a hobble an already straining service which is guaranteed to be overwhelmed by the spike and then cry foul.
The post office can handle ballots over a months time with no issue
They deal with 10 billion pieces of mail during the holidays
The post office was never the main method of collecting the vote! But in the year of Covid it became a wiping post.
They can deal with ballots with ease
Also if that is something conservatives believed they would not support defunding and cutting the overtime of workers at the post office during a election year where many people would vote by mail
The post office was there to process the absentee balloting, which is and always has been a subset of those who were not going to be available to go to their precincts to vote on Election Day.
The post office can handle regular ballots just fine.
That precede was expanded to weeks out with Early Voting.