@TaLoN132, you just advanced to level 19!

@Doc that's rational, but we've established that people aren't

@TaLoN132 yes

@TaLoN132 the difference is that no respect is given to those outlets as centrist

I'm a computer scientist with a PhD in machine learning and causal inference

@TaLoN132 but the right gives respect to the leftist outlets and can't stop complaining that they are not neutral

belief systems devoid of emotion exist, they are just not human

What outlets are centrist?

@DrSammyD every causality ends with either a regressive argument, a dogma or a tautology. Hardly rational.

@nachik great!

there are still a few, but harder to find entire outlets, rather individual journalists

None of those are centrist.

basically anyone who you can't tell who they are voting for is a respectable journalist IMO

either way, it doesn't matter who is _actually_ centrist

PBS is a pretty good example of relatively centrist. They also give equal time.

what matters is the _expectation_ that an outlet is centrist

people don't complain all day that buzzfeed is left leaning

Hmm, we might be using different definitions of rationality. I'm using economists "Action toward an end"

people don't complain all day that vice and vox are left leaning

but CNN plays in every airport

The way they all scream at trump and tiptoe around Biden is annoying but also kind of hilarious

@Beth, you just advanced to level 3!

oh god how do I turn this off ^^

@DrSammyD indeed. But when applying that to politics, it would break down.

centrism today is a fallacy, there are conflicting underlying models that cannot be compared like for like

Not if you understand the ends people are actually achieving with politics.

Human brains are too complicated for you to have an overview over even your own "end". Its why its called subconscious.

@DrSammyD

i see pelosi as your president, as no ruling will be made in time

e.g. rational irrationality.

@DrSammyD I would argue they dont know that themselves.

Oh good god

@CriMiN4L I have a case of wine riding on that as well.

Just playing devils advocate

That would be awful @CriMiN4L

its my guess

they need to make a movie on this when its all said and done and the title will be "the big steal"

found the mute I've never joined an active chat thing I despise social media stuff ^^

yeh gotta mute or its annoying

popups and the sound ^^

Someone needs to ask Robert why his ring keeps changing fingers