Message from @Doc
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Thatβs not accurate. To be Christian is to follow Christβs teachings. You can lose your salvation if you fall away from his teachings
@Doc No, you need God to sacrifice himself unto himself to appease himself for two particular ancestors of ours' transgressions.
The basis of the Christian faith is the New Testament that was ratified by Pope Innocent I in the year 405. Withouth Catholicism, there is no Christian Bible.
@thebrodys Oh. That's a little more elaborate than your original assertion. Apologies.
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@thebrodys now you are changing the version. It started out as "believe Christ as your Savior". When prodded in, you changed that to "follow Christβs teachings". I have seen this exact discussion before.
Yes, what doc said.
Christians believe Christ is the savior and we are called to follow his teachings
What does this have to do with elections
salty ^^
Blind faith in a messiah. 100% apt. @leftingfighter33
@thebrodys and if you believe in christ as your savior, yet continue to be a sinner, what then?
if you fail to follow his teachings, yet believe in him as savior?
Jesus is in the Quran.. are muslims Christians in a way .
no, they think he is a prophet. Not a savior.
Only allah saves in islam.
As a Christian, you still do sin. Sin is a constant battle. When I fall short of Christβs teachings, I pray and ask him to help me follow his teachings and to help me turn away from my sins. It does not mean we continue to openly sin
@thebrodys, you just advanced to level 4!
@thebrodys you dont continue to openly sin, but you continue to sin. Then it is clandesite sin?
@Doc So Jesus as savior, not in any other sense. This is snowballing.
Ur born a sinner. No need sin anymore
@thebrodys Does this mean that a pedophile that believes in christ, continues to sin (like everyone else), yet prays for guidance on a regular basis, gets saved?
No they go to hell
why?
faith is the opposite to reason ^^
Openly sin would be to acknowledge youβre sinning and to keep doing that. Everyone will fall short. We arenβt perfect, but we get to always fight against sin.
I'm still missing the part where Catholicism isn't Christian.
I'm slow.
@thebrodys so a pedophile struggling with sin, but believes in Christ as a savior, and cant stop his molesting, but prays for guidance, where does he end up?
When i was young. People told me that Catholicism dont revere images and statues. Only christ
@thebrodys I noted that we started out with accepting Christ as your savior. Then you had to follow his teachings, and now we have reached the third stage; you have to fight against sin. Why is this developing as we go along???
the bible approves that stuff too if you include the cutouts but let's not get into that we don't want to end like islam now will we ^^
@Doc I think it depends on whether he is Catholic. I'm getting confused.
Catholics are strict compared to Christians? ish?
<#771201221145919499> not #coweatsmilk
@Zuluzeit It is confusing when 100 million people try defining their own God.
Much less strict, going by the pedo argument.
When you say it like that... yeah not so strict after all. Awful.