Message from @james j
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@DeathRhodes666 you mean you have lost faith in your government to fulfill all technical requirements needed to finish a legislative process
One thing's for sure State legislatures need to clarify the interface between executive Board of Elections legislature and judicial
This is totally unacceptable
@Zuluzeit right that’s the hilarious thing . It was republicans that started the process and never finished it (maybe on purpose for this very reason)
@james j Yup. Making any claim I want based on my desires is super, super easy. Anyway, I'm suspicious. Therefore malfeasance.
@DeathRhodes666 do you understand what happened though
I've never had faith in government nor trust in it. I would be a fool to do so. I would lose faith in the judicial system if they ruled these changes are unconstitutional but the results stemming from the unconstitutional changes is still acceptable. That's not how things work.
Yeah but do you understand what happened @DeathRhodes666
That shouldn't be how things work in the judicial system. It's basically acknowledging the error but turning a blind eye towards it and not fixing it
I get the point you making but do you understand what actually happened @DeathRhodes666
A lawsuit was filed, Governor rammed through the changes before the hearings/procedures were followed, and now it's biting them in the ass
There's plenty of precedent for this... For decades in the South, massive voter suppression was proven, but courts - though finding the cases valid - would not overturn the current election and instead tried to influence future ones. This "kick the can" approach was ineffective and required the US Congress to act with the Voting Rights Act. I am paraphrasing, but I think this is essentially correct.
The reason why it’s unconstitutional is because they never held a procedural vote. This change was made in 2019. It wasn’t a rushed thing @DeathRhodes666
So the governor accepted the changes, procedures weren't followed, lawsuit is now filed, and it's biting them in the ass. Had my order wrong
@DeathRhodes666, you just advanced to level 3!
I think what you are talking about is the mail in vote extension that only effects 10000 votes. What they are talking about now is that all mail in votes are unconstitutional @DeathRhodes666
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Yeah it might be the white pill of hope
Had to turn off the last 3 hour video after 10 minutes of unrelated rambling.
However it just a procedural thing not a malfeasance thing @busillis
The other thing the courts might take into consideration is that PA citizens acted in good faith by voting mail-in, because Act 77 was passed in Oct 2019 and no one appears to have challenged it beforehand. Obviously, some of the mail-in voters would have legitimately been able to vote that way with the old system. Also, it is a big stretch to say that a voter that utilized a mail-in ballot would not have voted in person otherwise. Lastly, I wonder if they used the same mail-in for the Primary this year and if there was no challenge then, it might have an effect now.
Bingo
@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 21!
@james j rekitan somewhere between Alan dershowitz and Howard Stern?
Lmao
I'm not familiar, but I might have to check it out now... That should be their promotional slogan.
I assumed so... It's kind of sour grapes to wait until you don't get the outcome you want to complain.
Fair points. A timeline of when the most recent easing of standards was applied and when the primaries took place would help clarify the latter of your points. It could be that the primaries weren't as important as the general election is.
Thanks... I'll check it out later.
@DeathRhodes666 these changes were made in 2019
Pre pandemic