Message from @Zuluzeit

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2020-11-28 17:51:41 UTC  

I get the point you making but do you understand what actually happened @DeathRhodes666

2020-11-28 17:52:10 UTC  

A lawsuit was filed, Governor rammed through the changes before the hearings/procedures were followed, and now it's biting them in the ass

2020-11-28 17:52:13 UTC  

There's plenty of precedent for this... For decades in the South, massive voter suppression was proven, but courts - though finding the cases valid - would not overturn the current election and instead tried to influence future ones. This "kick the can" approach was ineffective and required the US Congress to act with the Voting Rights Act. I am paraphrasing, but I think this is essentially correct.

2020-11-28 17:53:23 UTC  
2020-11-28 17:54:07 UTC  

The reason why it’s unconstitutional is because they never held a procedural vote. This change was made in 2019. It wasn’t a rushed thing @DeathRhodes666

2020-11-28 17:55:07 UTC  

So the governor accepted the changes, procedures weren't followed, lawsuit is now filed, and it's biting them in the ass. Had my order wrong

2020-11-28 17:55:07 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666, you just advanced to level 3!

2020-11-28 17:55:16 UTC  

@james j cite the source please

2020-11-28 17:55:24 UTC  

I think what you are talking about is the mail in vote extension that only effects 10000 votes. What they are talking about now is that all mail in votes are unconstitutional @DeathRhodes666

2020-11-28 17:55:33 UTC  

I watched rekita law @busillis

2020-11-28 17:55:41 UTC  

It was like his second to last video

2020-11-28 17:56:37 UTC  

???

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/782303953798692875/unknown.png

2020-11-28 17:57:00 UTC  

Yeah it might be the white pill of hope

2020-11-28 17:57:06 UTC  

Had to turn off the last 3 hour video after 10 minutes of unrelated rambling.

2020-11-28 17:57:27 UTC  

I don’t remember I’ll have to sift though the videos @busillis

2020-11-28 17:57:49 UTC  

However it just a procedural thing not a malfeasance thing @busillis

2020-11-28 17:59:15 UTC  

The other thing the courts might take into consideration is that PA citizens acted in good faith by voting mail-in, because Act 77 was passed in Oct 2019 and no one appears to have challenged it beforehand. Obviously, some of the mail-in voters would have legitimately been able to vote that way with the old system. Also, it is a big stretch to say that a voter that utilized a mail-in ballot would not have voted in person otherwise. Lastly, I wonder if they used the same mail-in for the Primary this year and if there was no challenge then, it might have an effect now.

2020-11-28 17:59:30 UTC  

Bingo

2020-11-28 17:59:30 UTC  

@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 21!

2020-11-28 17:59:38 UTC  

@james j rekitan somewhere between Alan dershowitz and Howard Stern?

2020-11-28 18:00:07 UTC  

Lmao

2020-11-28 18:00:33 UTC  

@busillis yeah he is a shitposter memer/lawyer

2020-11-28 18:01:11 UTC  

@TaLoN132 it was used in the primary

2020-11-28 18:01:28 UTC  

I'm not familiar, but I might have to check it out now... That should be their promotional slogan.

2020-11-28 18:01:55 UTC  
2020-11-28 18:02:28 UTC  

I assumed so... It's kind of sour grapes to wait until you don't get the outcome you want to complain.

2020-11-28 18:02:48 UTC  

Fair points. A timeline of when the most recent easing of standards was applied and when the primaries took place would help clarify the latter of your points. It could be that the primaries weren't as important as the general election is.

2020-11-28 18:05:05 UTC  

@james j tks for the info/link

2020-11-28 18:06:00 UTC  

Thanks... I'll check it out later.

2020-11-28 18:06:47 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 these changes were made in 2019

2020-11-28 18:06:53 UTC  

Pre pandemic

2020-11-28 18:06:57 UTC  

I get that

2020-11-28 18:07:20 UTC  

By gop legislators

2020-11-28 18:07:38 UTC  

'Observing constitutionality is only appropriate if the election was important.' - The Right

They knew and they held onto it as a silver bullet. No bueno.

2020-11-28 18:07:47 UTC  

Does anyone know if a risk limiting audit has been performed in PA yet?

2020-11-28 18:07:51 UTC  

They never finished the process to amend the constitution

2020-11-28 18:07:55 UTC  

You do know that just because it came from the party that pushed for it doesn't mean it was legal

2020-11-28 18:08:31 UTC  

There is nothing illegal about passing the legislation, they just forgot to vote again @DeathRhodes666

2020-11-28 18:08:57 UTC  

Which is why it’s now just a technicality

2020-11-28 18:09:03 UTC  

A procedural error

2020-11-28 18:09:33 UTC  

And the bigger point definitely not fraud