Message from @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

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2020-11-30 19:58:31 UTC  

What your opinion on the democrats who testified on irregularities or illegal ballot counting? And if this were true-wouldn’t we expect an equal number of Democratic affidavits in which democrat poll watchers report similar experiences after months of being told that the fascist was going to try to steal the election?

2020-11-30 19:59:07 UTC  

They are cherry picking poll watchers

2020-11-30 20:00:04 UTC  

Didn’t the poll watchers come forward on their own accord?

2020-11-30 20:00:24 UTC  

Most of the affidavits in support of Trump came weeks after the election after the race was called for Biden. Biden's supporters didn't need to come forward because he won, in their eyes.

2020-11-30 20:00:31 UTC  

In which capacity? The AZ and PA hearings?

2020-11-30 20:01:18 UTC  

I remember reading affidavits just days after, maybe even the next day. I guess that’s just my memory I’m going off of.

2020-11-30 20:01:50 UTC  

There were videos on Twitter DAY OF Election Day, of republicans poll watchers being kicked out

2020-11-30 20:03:13 UTC  

The Trump lawyers collected lots of affidavits sympathetic to their bias they put them in lawsuits and when those were deemed poor arguments brought them out in these "hearings" not hearings in PA and GA it's not a representative sample of all witnesses

2020-11-30 20:04:16 UTC  

Why do you say sympathetic towards their bias, do you mean in support of their case? When i read that it just makes me believe you’re biased lol

2020-11-30 20:04:23 UTC  

Now in Michigan they opened it up to the public and had 500 folks show up which included many experts on certification and lawyers involved but then also neutral not democrat witnesses

2020-11-30 20:04:43 UTC  

There was also stories of republican poll watchers being extremely disruptive. Spam challenging every Biden vote. This happened all over the country. Also keep in mind that the official poll watchers never left. There are the public poll watchers and the poll watchers inside @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

2020-11-30 20:05:25 UTC  

They said Democrat poll watcher were abiding by the rules, election officials did their job professionally, and GOP poll watchers were full blown Karenosaurus on everyone

2020-11-30 20:06:11 UTC  

Spam challenging votes does not threaten the integrity of them.

2020-11-30 20:06:20 UTC  

Violating social distancing rules, spitting on workers, screaming or chanting stop the vote on the counting floor. Demanding a supervisor throw out a table full of ballots because a vote counter had no nametag.

2020-11-30 20:06:49 UTC  

Spam challenging the votes violates the rules challenges are to be made in good faith

2020-11-30 20:07:20 UTC  

Are there any affidavits you can point to of this occurring?

2020-11-30 20:07:29 UTC  

I haven't seen what happened today in AZ, but I only saw one person in Rudy's PA show (it wasn't a hearing) who identified as Democrat. She only attested to people not following exact procedures. The main story that she told was about needing a specific person to sign and authorize a request for provisional ballot. She did not testify that they attempted to let someone vote provisionally that they should not have. Other than that, she described a tense situation at a polling place that may be hyper sensitive to non-minorities that may be trying to suppress the vote. That is not fraud and she was only brought there to make it seem like "even Dems saw things that showed fraud", but that is not what she said,

2020-11-30 20:07:56 UTC  

They tried to get more Republicans than legally allowed and claimed they were not allowed to watch when there was over 100 Republicans watching.

2020-11-30 20:08:03 UTC  

They are all dated...

2020-11-30 20:08:06 UTC  

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire it’s unnecessarily slows down the process. Plus you have people banging on glass windows and yelling. The public poll watchers weren’t kicked for no reason. There are countless stories of republican poll watchers being disruptive. Not to mention the official poll watchers in the room never left.

2020-11-30 20:08:40 UTC  

Her testimony showed that employees were attempting to break the legal process and used intimidation to do so. That’s pretty bad...

2020-11-30 20:08:40 UTC  

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-11-30 20:09:39 UTC  

She did not attest to any fraud.

2020-11-30 20:09:51 UTC  

we need to start ignoring people like james and dedkraken. they are disrupting constructive conversations from reasonable people on both side of the political spectrum

2020-11-30 20:09:59 UTC  

do not reply or engage with them

2020-11-30 20:10:20 UTC  

She witnessed a person come in to invalidate an absentee vote and replace it with their own, and the employee there used physical intimidation to make her break the legal process for doing that properly.

2020-11-30 20:11:20 UTC  

Yes, fraud is something different and specific. But it points to a process of illegally counting ballots. Using physical intimidation.

2020-11-30 20:11:33 UTC  

Spears is just saying doing what he can to not address to issue in the table

2020-11-30 20:11:53 UTC  

That's why these hearings are so weird they arent under perjury. They arent allowed Democrat Congressmen to ask any questions. They arent allowing neutral experts in to testify. They arent allowing neutral witnesses. It's all information their legal team wants to present one sided.

2020-11-30 20:11:59 UTC  

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2020-11-30 20:12:18 UTC  

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire there was one affidavit of a woman claiming she was being intimidated but a large man. Yeah okay , those spam affidavits were all thrown out

2020-11-30 20:12:39 UTC  

Again if you have any affidavits of Republican poll watchers doing any of the things you mentioned I would be happy to take a look

2020-11-30 20:13:01 UTC  

A bunch of erroneous claims is not reliable evidence, especially when gathered in a website

2020-11-30 20:13:34 UTC  

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire no one wrote affidavits on the republican poll watchers because no one is going after them legally

2020-11-30 20:13:51 UTC  

It’s been reported by election officials and recorded on tape @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

2020-11-30 20:14:22 UTC  

I don’t see how you could assign any meaning to it then

2020-11-30 20:14:42 UTC  

I mean, how easy is it to record something on tape lol. Especially if you hate trump

2020-11-30 20:16:09 UTC  

Affidavits are just for court. People can of course describe their experiences to the news. But the ones I described were part of the formal hearing over michigan certification which is more than these trump legal press conference "affidavit witnesses" https://youtu.be/lytepDbGK5E

2020-11-30 20:16:24 UTC  

She was being overly pedantic, honestly. She was miffed that someone left when they supposedly weren't supposed to leave and never asked why. There may have been a valid personal why she left, but we will never know because she was not concerned about it. At the end of the day, we are all people and a certain measure of decency should permeate all we do. I understand that the "election judge" (I think that's what she called them) was apparently gone for 45 minutes when they should not have been, but common sense must prevail. I am certain that this type of thing happens all the time and as long as they are not allowing someone to vote that shouldn't, I'm not that concerned. The same should be true for any polling site. If she said that they were letting someone vote on behalf of their "sick" parent (or something) and she saw a steady stream of that going on, well that would be significant.

2020-11-30 20:16:44 UTC  

What are you talking about ? It’s on tape of hordes of public republican poll watchers screaming and yelling and banging on the glass , election officials reporting on their behavior of being disruptive. Yet you believe some unverifiable affidavits that they were mistreated.? @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

2020-11-30 20:17:04 UTC  

Keep in mind official republican poll watchers were always present