@Dedkraken the day to riot would have been Nov 4-11. When Biden got his vote spike would have been a perfect time, or when they boarded up the counting rooms would have worked.
The time to riot for the right has already passed imo. If the legal game fails, then that’s it. People will move on.

That might be a sensible day to riot but it seems like Trump has argued a less sensible approach and they buy it completely

@yetiCodes antifa hates Biden and neo libs. Also we had similar riots under Obama but they were short lived. Obama implemented police reform and pushed for body cams. That initiative took a pressure cooker situation and kept it subdued. With Trump he basically gave the peaceful protestors on the foot ball field the middle finger. The riots weren’t about political loyalty it was about police reform and if you explicitly take that off the table as a possibility you don’t release the pressure valve of that situation.

Anyone that resorts to unprovoked violence or destruction of property are criminals and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I reject the idea that it is an expression of free speech. There are way too many avenues for getting your point across today that does not require violence and wanton destruction to make yourself heard. And I am someone who is sympathetic to the BLM movement and thinks that justice reform is badly needed.

Alex jones pretty much has a private army at this point and that's never a good sign

What your opinion on the democrats who testified on irregularities or illegal ballot counting? And if this were true-wouldn’t we expect an equal number of Democratic affidavits in which democrat poll watchers report similar experiences after months of being told that the fascist was going to try to steal the election?

They are cherry picking poll watchers

Didn’t the poll watchers come forward on their own accord?

Most of the affidavits in support of Trump came weeks after the election after the race was called for Biden. Biden's supporters didn't need to come forward because he won, in their eyes.

In which capacity? The AZ and PA hearings?

I remember reading affidavits just days after, maybe even the next day. I guess that’s just my memory I’m going off of.

There were videos on Twitter DAY OF Election Day, of republicans poll watchers being kicked out

The Trump lawyers collected lots of affidavits sympathetic to their bias they put them in lawsuits and when those were deemed poor arguments brought them out in these "hearings" not hearings in PA and GA it's not a representative sample of all witnesses

Why do you say sympathetic towards their bias, do you mean in support of their case? When i read that it just makes me believe you’re biased lol

Now in Michigan they opened it up to the public and had 500 folks show up which included many experts on certification and lawyers involved but then also neutral not democrat witnesses

There was also stories of republican poll watchers being extremely disruptive. Spam challenging every Biden vote. This happened all over the country. Also keep in mind that the official poll watchers never left. There are the public poll watchers and the poll watchers inside @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

They said Democrat poll watcher were abiding by the rules, election officials did their job professionally, and GOP poll watchers were full blown Karenosaurus on everyone

Spam challenging votes does not threaten the integrity of them.

Violating social distancing rules, spitting on workers, screaming or chanting stop the vote on the counting floor. Demanding a supervisor throw out a table full of ballots because a vote counter had no nametag.

Spam challenging the votes violates the rules challenges are to be made in good faith

Are there any affidavits you can point to of this occurring?

I haven't seen what happened today in AZ, but I only saw one person in Rudy's PA show (it wasn't a hearing) who identified as Democrat. She only attested to people not following exact procedures. The main story that she told was about needing a specific person to sign and authorize a request for provisional ballot. She did not testify that they attempted to let someone vote provisionally that they should not have. Other than that, she described a tense situation at a polling place that may be hyper sensitive to non-minorities that may be trying to suppress the vote. That is not fraud and she was only brought there to make it seem like "even Dems saw things that showed fraud", but that is not what she said,

They tried to get more Republicans than legally allowed and claimed they were not allowed to watch when there was over 100 Republicans watching.

They are all dated...

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire it’s unnecessarily slows down the process. Plus you have people banging on glass windows and yelling. The public poll watchers weren’t kicked for no reason. There are countless stories of republican poll watchers being disruptive. Not to mention the official poll watchers in the room never left.

Her testimony showed that employees were attempting to break the legal process and used intimidation to do so. That’s pretty bad...

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire, you just advanced to level 5!

She did not attest to any fraud.

we need to start ignoring people like james and dedkraken. they are disrupting constructive conversations from reasonable people on both side of the political spectrum

do not reply or engage with them

She witnessed a person come in to invalidate an absentee vote and replace it with their own, and the employee there used physical intimidation to make her break the legal process for doing that properly.

Yes, fraud is something different and specific. But it points to a process of illegally counting ballots. Using physical intimidation.

Spears is just saying doing what he can to not address to issue in the table

That's why these hearings are so weird they arent under perjury. They arent allowed Democrat Congressmen to ask any questions. They arent allowing neutral experts in to testify. They arent allowing neutral witnesses. It's all information their legal team wants to present one sided.

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@AdvanceManExtraordinaire there was one affidavit of a woman claiming she was being intimidated but a large man. Yeah okay , those spam affidavits were all thrown out

Again if you have any affidavits of Republican poll watchers doing any of the things you mentioned I would be happy to take a look

A bunch of erroneous claims is not reliable evidence, especially when gathered in a website

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire no one wrote affidavits on the republican poll watchers because no one is going after them legally

It’s been reported by election officials and recorded on tape @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

I don’t see how you could assign any meaning to it then