Message from @Adam135
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Doesn't matter at that point, they can play that same clip of her shouting that these witnesses are lying over and over again all over social media
Literally giving sway to their argument in public opinion
Yeah true
I find it interesting that those on the right will use concerns about experience, principles and honesty to impugn Harris - who has served CA admirably at every step of her career. As far as experience goes, her resume is arguably stronger than Trump's was when he took office with regard to running a govt - and no amount of admiration for his maverick, swamp-draining, thinking out of the box platitudes can belie the fact that he had to learn on the job after taking office. Regarding principles and honesty, Donald Trump is no paragon of either of those traits. Concerns about a more progressive agenda are the equivalent of the left's fears of Trumps authoritarian or fascistic agenda - both are fearmongering and potential impediments to getting the country back on track, in my opinion.
I wouldn't be worried too much. Biden was a military parent. He will not be inclined to keep our troops deployed unnecessarily.
I mean, she got caught for supressing evidence until forced to do, you have to hold yourself to higher standard of ethics if you're gonnah go against Trump. And as for our troops, I'm not so sure. Under Obama/Biden we went from 2 wars to 7, and I can't really remember the justification for why.
What 7 wars??? What parallel universe did you come from?
let me see if I can find it.
Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia
We still buying these tall tales from these hearings and taking them as fact?
All bombed
Yemen was through giving Saudi’s Arabian terrorists money
By terrorists I mean the monarchs of Saudi Arabia
Also, didn't he kill an American in Yemen he suspected to be the son of a terrorist?
Yep
If you are worried about boots on the ground in middle east why a beef with a "war" without boots on ground
Drone wars
and then of course Colbert sucks up to Obama during an interview about his latest book.
What about war of Christmas and drugs 😅
I mean, during those 8 years, our administration killed more innocent civilians than the terrorist groups they claimed to be fighting.
Adam did but hey that seems like a rational response
I said nothing of the sort you muppet,
If you have a hard time following this, I can understand, but please verify first.
You didnt say you were concerned about Biden not withdrawing troops then turn around and complain Obama was handling conflicts without troops?
We still have troops there nonetheless
If you're going to go on bombing runs, why even have troops on the ground at all.
My personal gripes with all this are A: Our military force shouldn't be taken for granted, so there should be immediate withdrawal of all American forces occupying those territories and B: The number of civilian casualties for a conflict with so little justification for intervention is unacceptable in my opinion
Remain civil in here, no wishes of violence on other people, nor attacks against other people.
You know, except for brown people over seas.
Peaceful brexit administrative type
How about "I hope the consequences of the policies which you're making excuses for that effect people in other countries are visited upon you"?
I am not as familiar with this particular talking point, so I am doing some research. To call those "wars" is a bit of a stretch and several of those we have been dealing since way before the Obama administration.
The US has:
- had skirmishes with Libya since the 80's
- conducted drone strikes in Yemen since the mid 00's (hundreds of them by some accounts)
- we have not been at war with Pakistan, but have been carrying out drone strikes since at least 2004.
- Syria is complicated, but the alternative to not getting involved was potentially worse.
I don't have fully formed opinions yet, but on the surface, characterizing these as 5 "wars" started under Obama is not an accurate description of what happened.
No.
Bombs are acts of war. He did dropped 1 bomb every 12 minutes or something like that.
Not that volume no
but acts of war nonetheless in my opinion
sorry, updated. 12 minutes.
And as for Syria, it was always a losing battle. There remained little to gain, and even less to sustain
By this same definition, Trump has started more... Each of these has continued under Trump and he added Iran by assassinating their General. Plus, he failed to take measures to protect the troops when they learned that bounties were put on the heads of our soldiers.