Message from @AdamS
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The holding company formed to divest Smartmatic of Sequoia was owned by the US owners of Smartmatic, I believe.
I read something that convinced me that smartmatic and dominion were closer than they appeared but I have honestly been in the weeds reading shit for the last few weeks I couldn't tell ya where or what it was that convinced me
I don't doubt that Dominion systems have vulnerabilities and are likely to have less than ideal code. I have been coding since I was 9 years old and I have been involved in dozens and dozens of systems... and I can tell you that 4/5 systems are poorly architected and coded.
Thank you. Have the machines been handed over for independent analysis? & I feel it’s appropriate for the machines to forensically examined since so much of the electorate believe malfeasance has taken place.
I think you are, but then again I might be too lol
Iirc, in 2010 the order was given to Smartmatic to dissolve its holding in Sequoia, due to security concerns, determined by CFIUS
Sequoia then went through a long process of dying out, and was attempted to be bought by Hart Inc, Hart learned and reported of their remaining connections to smartmatic, and then I think radio silence for a few years and then the public record shifts from sequoia to dominion
I honestly think they are just competitors. I think Ramsland lost a race when Dominion systems were used and he went on a crusade.
I think they’re posed as competitors, to put the tinfoil hat on
This is utter and complete speculation on my part - I know that many developers that get crazy with their test systems. I could envision a developer that put some test functionality that allowed an Admin type to change vote totals for different test scenarios. I've worked on several systems that had a maintenance screen that exposed similar. This would often be a hidden "internal only" maintenance screen, but I have seen lazy programmers just make it available on a client facing screen.
Like I said all speculation.
Its my bedtime yall. I'm glad we were able to have some great back and forth, civil discussion. I appreciate all the open opinions and research. Have a great day/night all!
The bottom line is that hand recounts would expose any software only vote flipping. To flip a vote electronically and still balance to a hand recount. Ballots would have to be swapped out in all the corresponding precincts where changes were made.
Likewise. Goodnight.
Woohoo! My memory is not so bad after all
I would agree except the ballots are reprinted for the recounts so <a:aPES_Laugh:664885767574781964>
It's been a pleasure... Goodnight and Good morning, respectively.
Only a signature audit would do it
Same to you
goodnight
goodmornin
Are you sure about that? That kind of defeats the purpose of paper ballots.
Well, maybe not reprinted, but the signatures haven’t been verified during the audit. the audit just compares every ballot with what the machine counted
@em, you just advanced to level 2!
@em they bough the asserts of sequoia . They are still competitors to dominion.
They sold* their assets
and then Dominion bought them
Yeah
They are not the same company
Also on a side note signatures do very little to stop fraud. What it does do is catch people with sloppy hand writing
I have never heard of anyone asking for a signature audit before this year. It only became a thing when the recounts didn't reveal the vote switching they were sure had happened. The will keep moving the goal post and use the excuse 'shouldn't we all want to know"'
> the matter of the true ownership of the intellectual property (IP) of Sequoia’s voting systems wasn’t at all what the company had represented to the public, to media, to election official customers, and even in courts of law.
> As part of a detailed investigative exposé series in 2008, as we broke the story of Hart Intercivic’s quietly attempted hostile takeover of Sequoia, we revealed the fact that — despite representations to the contrary, possibly even to U.S. government investigators — the IP for the vast-majority/near-entirety of Sequoia’s voting systems was actually secretly owned by the Hugo Chavez-tied, Venezuelan-based firm, Smartmatic.
just throwing this here for those who wanna see this again maybe before i dip
I watched it... Didn't say anything about Dominion, though.
Dominion bought them in 2010, this looks like it's from 2006
Do you, by chance, work for a hardware/software company?
I'm not sure if I'm willing to throw elections under the globe around the bus because of some guy named Brad that has a blog. The Hugo Chavez nonsense has always been tenuous at best. Smartmatic machines were never broken. You cast your vote a paper ballot prints out and you heck your vote. Audit the paper ballots against the electronic tally and you have accurate voting results. Fraud beyond that isnt baked into the software and hardware. If Hugo Chavez wanted to rig an election he would have used older machines without safeguards.
Even if there was some mysterious evil intent behind smartmatic software and they bought sequoia you think that what their voting machines plus themselves into 30 year old sequoia machines and download their evil into the software? Then they go and infect dominion machines? Dominion wasnt buying decades old machines to use their software in their new machines. They bought them to sell their clients hundreds of millions of dollars of machines they developed to replace old unsecure machines.
They dont reprint ballots and of course signatures arent verified by the recount they are secret votes theres no signature on them. Verifying the total number and number for each candidate rules out a wide variety of fraud methods which the GOP has claimed happened. Verifying signatures had not much of anything to do with the fraud claimed they just saw their fraud wasnt proven and randomly demanded more because while a signature audit is thing its done for other reasons and they know it's illegal for the secretary of state to order the audit without a direct reason for doing so. But that ofc deals with the mailins not machine votes.
If we want to destroy secrecy of voter identification once the ballot has been counted and we want to go back and audit the identity of those that cast the already counted votes we would have to change 44 state Constitutions as it's been considered core to democracy to keep integrity of the vote and not allow people to be bullied harassed intimidated or purchased at the voting booth. Considering the volume and breadth of death threats made against everyone identified in the election process as showing Trump lost and an apparent hunger for suspending the US Constitution and invoking martial law I'd say it's a good thing they cannot figure out who votes for whom more now than ever.
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