Message from @Recalibar
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Or arrested 🤣
If I have a secret clearance should I be worred? Lmfao
I may or may not.
5) What I am saying is that criminals tend to make mistakes, leave evidence, proof of a crime. Conspiracies tend to fall apart and yet with hundreds even thousands of affidavits claiming to provide evidence of fraud, not one bunch of replaced ballots showed up? No one caught going through security with pre-filled in ballots? Not one person caught in the act of swapping out fake ballots for real ones? It doesn't require a whistleblower to come forward... It takes one person who is involved in the conspiracy to be caught doing something suspicious and being interviewed by the authorities and making a deal. We've not found one person doing anything that caused them to lawyer up or anything.
And there is no way that a handful of people could perpetrate this level of fraud. Each precinct has it's own types of ballots - different local races, measures, etc. Each precinct - where they do the counting in most states, I believe - would have to be compromised - All in the same time period. The President and his legal team are asserting fraud on the scale of millions of votes. He thinks he won the popular vote. How many people would it take to flip nearly 4 million votes?
You notice we have tightened security clearances this last year or 2?
No more 10 year expiration date either
With what’s at stake, I don’t think we will see leaks through USA cracks especially under national emergency. If you’re looking for leaks, check Canada, Mexico etc.
How many Canadians in here read/watch underground right wing?
While I am watching both sides with interest, I have to admit that, being a Michigander, emotions are getting involved....to think that many of of were disenfranchised because of a few bad actors in a county that's known NATIONALLY for bad actors is pretty dang believable.
And I literally live 1.5 miles from the Wayne County line. I pay attention to ALL the crap that happens in that county. They're the most corrupt county I've ever witnessed and I've lived in Jefferson County (Denver, CO), Lee County (Ft/ Myers, FL), and close to Pulaski County (Little Rock, AR).....Wayne County's corruption knows no end.
@DisenchantedTruth, you just advanced to level 5!
> @TaLoN132 "Conspiracies tend to fall apart and yet with hundreds even thousands of affidavits claiming to provide evidence of fraud, not one bunch of replaced ballots showed up? No one caught going through security with pre-filled in ballots? Not one person caught in the act of swapping out fake ballots for real ones?"
There are a lot of those. What sort of evidence are you looking for in particular? I can hunt down some of the circulating videos I've taken note that indicate that some of these
But, in response to you wanting "proof"....eye witness testimony apparently doesn't count in your mind. As for the pristine ballots, I've screamed to high heaven to have ballots tested for paper type and ink .... THAT would show if they were all printed by the same printer as the official ballots.
I am a SQL data architect and developer. I have been doing it for more than 25 years. I work on massively scalable datasets for the Entertainment industry where demographic data is important. I could list my resume, but trust me that I am not a neophyte when it comes to data analysis. Matt Braynard is on the right track, but he could only do what he could with the information that he had. He found some suspicious things that absolutely should be followed up on. But until any of his claims of mail-in fraud produce an actual suspect, it is only a hint that something happened. I also think that his attempt to extrapolate his findings was flawed. Again, I don't think that scale is required to uncover the truth. If they could catch one or a few of the participants in a conspiracy, they will get to the truth. Until then, it's not proof.
Are you meaning perpetrator testimony, then? Have you heard the testimony of the guy asked to ship ballots from NY to PA?
Why can chain of custody logs not be produced for ballots delivered in some places? Why are 71% of Wayne County precincts unable to be recounted because they can't balance the ballot count with the poll books numbers?
I'm talking about someone that is under investigation by the authorities. Someone that would have to answer tough questions and stand up to investigative scrutiny. Where are the people being taken into custody? Put some pressure on them. Most of us would like to think that we are tough, but faced with the possibility of having to watch my kids and/or (future, God willing) grandkids grow up through glass... I am guessing I would be looking for an out.
There are too many things happening that have no valid explanation for me to agree that mass fraud didn't happen.....not to mention the idea that a guy who campaigned from his basement got more votes than even Obama?
Obama wasnt running against the worst potus 😅
That's good... They should be easy to investigate. Like I mentioned, rented mailboxes require ID. It's to make it harder to use them for money laundering and other illegal activities.
In large cities, though....there are places that are not USPS owned who provide mailbox services. Those places don't always follow the same guidelines as USPS.
Ah, than you mean an arrest, then? A criminal conviction. We haven't seen any indication that these people have been charged yet, but honestly I'm not particularly well-versed enough with federal law and charges to know if there have been any arrests made on this front or not. My conspiracy mind want's to say "opsec" but I recognize that it's not an argument. I'd personally call it a "Known unknown" if this woman Ruby Freeman and her alleged daughter are in custody or not.
@Recalibar, you just advanced to level 3!
I'm looking for a way to prove or disprove the idea that a massive conspiracy took place to flip millions of votes as Trump and his team have asserted. It would have to involve the coordinated efforts of many, many people.
Trust me.. We would know. Trump tweeted about ballots being found before the election before the investigation by the DOJ really even started.
Even just like the start of things would be cool. Like if you accuse a sitting govenor or sec if state of rigging an election or getting paid by China or Biden buying the election a money trail or solid basis.
That's the thinking. If the dominion vote changing system allegations are true, well, it would require a lot of parties to be in on it. It's an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. But thousands of affidavits signal that there's extraordinary evidence, as well.
I've rented boxes and Mail Boxes Etc and the UPS Store before. Had to provide ID and a place for them to send the bill or a credit card.
@DisenchantedTruth And if they were rented without ID or they used fake ID... Bingo.. We have something to investigate. Check surveillance video. Fingerprint the mailbox. Get a composite drawing from the clerk. Look at video from the surrounding areas.
I'm loving this conversation - thank you all for jumping in. I am trying to respond to each point. If I forget one, please poke me.
Oh, I'd be giddy if arrest announcements came out. There was a story of someone in Texas who was running in an electoral board being arrested by the FBI but it was impossible to find now so I have no choice but to dismiss the claim. There was also the allegation that the ICE twitter was taken down after pedophelia ring bust, but the only thing I can attest to there was a screenshot of the story posted and personal testimony that I saw ICE's twitter actually having been banned. The story was otherwise taken down, if it ever existed to begin with and wasn't a forgery/slip up from someone.
ICE has since been restored, within around eight hours I believe. Sometime in november.
If it's unrelated, it's as unrelated as the DOJ investigating facebook right now for preferential visa hiring.
Ooh that's what guilianis witness is ranting about 🤣
If you look at the first few pages Detroit has the registered voters by precinct and the in person voters but 0 on mailin votes. Page 93 has the presincts listed over again with just the mailin votes. I dont know what rule or law or method they split it for but that seems to be the cause. If they listed registered voters as second time itd probably double the number.
I wish the Congress leader wasnt a dick the followup questions would have been great
Yeah like, obviously someone isn't doing their job lol. This has been an issue in Detroit for literally years, according to testimony from the board of canvassers. They went in pretty hard on the republican canvassers for refusing to sign off on the accuracy of the precincts when she was saying "Yeah this is a problem..."
It's a very odd way of recording the numbers but they still should work. The problem they weren't signing off on the numbers was different. That's a mismatch of the final vote counts.
There was 257619 ballots counted but their totals of votes there was supposed to be was like 400 more or less I wasnt sure which. Theres some amount of errors like this especially when you have lots working long hours.
Anyway, long story short so I'm not conspiracy theorizing here, there haven't been any confirmed announcements of arrests in relation to fraudulent vote efforts. But in my personal observations, I can see the possibility of opsec as being an important factor to consider, so I can't dismiss that it's a possibility.
I lived in the U.P. as a kid. My dad was stationed at KI Sawyer AFB. Loved it there, but don't miss the snow. I can drive an hour from here in OC CA and see snow whenever I want.
I understand your concerns about Wayne County and you are obviously closer to the situation than I am, but I had some issues/questions with the testimony that was provided in the Senate hearing - especially that of Dr. Travers, who I figure was their star witness. During her testimony, she mentioned several times about Wayne county in general, but specifically, Detroit, (I think - I am doing this from memory) was 71 or 72% out of balance and called into question the validity of 72% of the vote. However, not once did she mention that over the 159 (I think) precincts, they were only out of balance 441 votes. To call into question the validity of 72% of the vote when only out of balance by a total of 441 votes is intellectually dishonest which made me question her motives - because as an expert she would have to know.
Then, she related a story where she was at a voting office and she witnessed an individual dropping off 50 votes and said that she knew that it was a felony to do so and... Did nothing about it. She didn't call the police report the election clerk who accepted the votes... nothing. That would have been great to point to documentation to support her story, but she didn't provide any and admitted to witnessing a felony in progress without reporting it.
I also took issue with the way she called the precincts in Detroit "lazy" for not balancing. Those are large precincts and finding the error that caused them to be in most cases under 5 ballots out of balance would be cost prohibitive. That's why they choose to certify.
Lastly, the law that says you can't audit an out of balance precinct is non-sensical... Ridiculous the Rep controlled legislature should change that immediately.
If you balance every McDonalds register in the country it could be plus or minus thousands of dollars. But as long as 1 register isnt missing 1000 dollars they let it slide.