I'd like to think the police officers taking the GOP watchers out of the room are also not super dumb or something that it's over nothing

@DisenchantedTruth If you needed an attorney and your livelihood depended on it, which one would you hire.

@RobertGrulerEsq - without a doubt!

Sorry. Had to.

Too funny...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-vyw9qbdw Counter testimony.

I honestly felt like Binnell presented a strong case when you take in the preponderance of evidence .... until I found that the judge basically excluded most evidence.

Lots of the affidavits dont seem to know what fraud is or have weird complaints or just wanted to say they thought people were rude to them

That hearing was an embarrassment to Michiganders.

Also, they did have depositions with cross examination on a certain number of witnesses - negotiated due to time constraints. The Trump Campaign lawyers were allowed to bring like 10 of their best witnesses to be deposed with opposing council. They didn't hold up to scrutiny... These were the best as chosen by the plaintiff.

Which I think is just sloppy or intentional from Trump Legal Team

Emotions did run high...

The reason I feel more inclined to believe this group of people is that they're under criminal charges for fraud if they're all indeed liars.

Agreed. That's also why the strongest, least whiny ones were the ones that Rudy & Team have taken to legislative hearings.

How many of them were like I saw a person with black lives matter on their clothing 😱

But those people were not used as witnesses UNLESS that tidbit was a sidenote to a much stronger testimony. They have an affidavit but that's it.

No the NV and GA "unofficial" hearings let allllllll those folks in to speak as much as they wanted lol

Plus they might not want them on the stand on MI but they love to hold up stacks of paper and exclaim look at these things

Way too high for me to appreciate out of our legislature....and Rudy needed a leash on one of his witnesses. I saw him trying to back her down but she was like a blasted pit bull latched on.

But that's the point... What would possess good lawyers to include so many affidavits when they have to know they won't stand up to scrutiny??? Could it be that they are not for the court, but for the court of public opinion? So they can go in front of the press and say - "we had tons of evidence that they wouldn't even look at... It's a sham... The courts are in on it... We must not allow this election to be stolen!"

Lol yeah, that one contractor

I'm talking about the witnesses Rudy & Team specifically brought in. The 1st day of the MI testimony was a crap ton of 5th rate whiny witnesses.

You have a solid thinking point there.

I bring it up only because the countertestimony was from a similar group of whiny 5th rate Detroiters who are suddenly specialists on Michigan law. "You MUST by LAW CERTIFY TODAY"

@Recalibar, you just advanced to level 5!

I felt sorry for Rudy with the crazy witness. I've seen our attorney have to deal with my husband....he's punch my husband's arm and kicked hum under the table....

@DisenchantedTruth, you just advanced to level 6!

I am not kidding, either. My husband talks TOO DANG MUCH

Ahaha

@DisenchantedTruth Yikes... There's a story there... Do tell!

Like that one guy who straight up took over a CBS news network for like 2 minutes?

Just negotiating with a bank to buy a troubled business....husband kept giving away negotiation points that the attorney was wanting to use later.

"Sure! I'll pay those back taxes!" "Sure, I'll pay another $75K for the liquor license!" etc. Attorney had almost nothing to negotiate with.

Information groundgame haha

Way to sell it...

Any election updates?

@DisenchantedTruth Your husband sounds like an honest, fair man. I hate negotiations... If I were better at it, I would have made and would be making a lot, lot more money.

Hey @leftingfighter33 - we've been doing a thought experiment. Care to weigh in?

Here's what started the conversation: https://discordapp.com/channels/760945067107680286/771201221145919499/784832307219136612

Of what sort? Weekends are usually slow for this kinda thing. Big rally in Georgia and they're subpoena the TCF center for their CCTV recordings in preparation for another evidential hearing before state lawmakers, sources tell me.

Scratch that, unsubstantiated currently.