The margins are small enough that it doesn't require massive fraud

It requires systematic skewing

Which have evidence of with mail in ballot rejection rates

@Corndog well then mail in is fraudulent. We have 7 states in the union that vote almost exclusively by mail for decades (0.0025 fraud rate) The burden is to show that mail in voter fraud is fraudulent. Again so far nothing

Compared to military and absentee

Like 10 votes in a state is massive really 😂

Anyone found this case on CourtListener?

https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1334997760869888003

I hate it when they give me a screenshot that has no case number

Mail in ballot rejection based on signatures are great for catching people with poor handwriting not fraud.

That's your claim with zero backing

Why are those elections comparable to this one in light of COVID? Not being allowed to be within 6 feet, sometimes roped off across the room. Limited numbers of watchers. I think this election warrants a special case and extra prudence.

Wouldn’t the signature on file be equally terrible?

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Also feel free to reread my previous questions. I would be happy to hear your answer.

@yetiCodes it’s not about how sloppy the signature is it’s the variance people have in signatures. Most people don’t practice a personal signature in modern times @yetiCodes

@Corndog you are saying mail in voting has issues. There is no evidence of this

Nope never said that. Please review what I said please.

State or anything about it?

@Corndog you appealed to covid restrictions

Right your point being?

Frankly, it's an intellectually dishonest stance - unless you are just trolling me. I'll assume for now that you are not. You proposed that bad actors could work in a decentralized manner. Fine... sure, it doesn't require centralization. Whether coordinated or decentralized, the likelihood for Biden supporters to have pulled off election fraud without anyone being caught in the act given the logistics required is arguably next to nothing. It would mean that every nefarious actor brilliantly executed their part and every MAGA supporter watching for the inevitable fraud, buffoonishly and miserably failed at their primary objective.

And now... without any credible evidence to date, Trump's supporters are demanding that state's legislatures overrule the will of the people because they would rather believe a fantastical version of events over the overwhelmingly likely version of events... and for what? So their guy wins?

Trump's supporters choose to believe anecdotal and circumstantial evidence as fact - even though it has yet to stand up to scrutiny in court - and, yes, nearly all of the cases have been dismissed, but nearly all of them included the judge's opinions on the merits of the evidence presented and not one of them found it credible. Not one. The NV case thrown out yesterday included, 10 (I think) deposed witnesses who testified under oath and under cross examination admitted they did not see fraud. They had expert witnesses that under oath testified that the election was conducted properly. Trump's witnesses, Trump's experts. It was not even close. However, the RWM says that the case was dismissed and not heard on its merits and that is false. It was dismissed, because it had no merit.

You have shared well thought out and cogent points of view. I can't imagine you don't see this for what it is... I actually hope you're just trolling me.

So what ballots were verified just the same in front of both republican and democrats poll workers @Corndog

Im absolutely not trolling. I will read the rest of this later.

I don’t understand your question. Can you rephrase that?

You just appealed to covid restrictions so I have no idea what you are talking about specifically @Corndog

That's why they increased the barriers to catching people in the act.

Looks like the dems case lost has trump v raffen original petition. I dont know if something there you can refer back to but it's got the guts https://www.democracydocket.com/state/georgia/

I believe 7 states now send ballots to all registered voters. It worked really well here in CA. I highly recommend it.

Ok. I don’t know how else to help. I said they elections of the past are not comparable because Covid restrictions and ramifications. It should be looked into and they should be compared prior to appealing to the historical integrity of elections. I don’t see how they are the same cases, the closest one I could see is the Bush election. There are significant differences in how that election was ran. Poll watcher limitations, yes some mail in voting, and margins for example are not the same.

Here's a copy of the main document but it's not the filed document for me to grab a case number on it. https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/verified-petition-to-contest-georgia-election.pdf

What safeguards are in place to ensure that ballots aren't being mailed to addresses where people no longer live

This is unjustified faith in our criminal justice and investigative efficacy.

Are they active or passive measures

@Corndog yeah that’s what I said. You didn’t give any of the differences in this election that cause the need to question its authenticity.

How many people know what the 50 cent army is

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The margins were closer in trumps win @Corndog

If drugs can be a $100 billion industry when we have a militarized leo department dedicated to it's eradication, ballot and election fraud with mail in ballots is a cake walk

Supreme Court just ruled on this. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-supreme-court-is-protecting-the-rights-of-the-faithful?utm_source=smartnews&utm_medium=feed

Personally based on my understanding of decentralized systems and based on what we know I think it is equally intellectually dishonest at this point to hold either view. Now there are some key dates coming up that will allow us to lean one way or the other but I find the conjecture on the left just as appealing and that from the right. I disagree that we can know the likelihood of something or even if that likelihood holds any weight in determining an election. What we do know is very little. There is not much to compare to due the extenuating circumstances of this year. The reality is that there are reasonable arguments on both sides so currently withholding votes in those states is the most reasonable and prudent solution until those are resolved, if they ever are.

They rely on a number of factors, as I understand it. The USPS NCOA, death records, etc.