Message from @Steeler26
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There was about 10k mail-in ballots in PA that were postmarked by 11/3 that arrived after 11/3 and before end of day 11/6. These were set aside per Boockvar's and later Alito's orders.
It’s still pending. There’s now two cases in front of SCOTUS on PA issues.
Has anyone ever outlined how the voter fraud actually occurred
Not really.
Only if you trust their count of 10k
They chose not to weigh in before the vote certification. For purposes of this election, it is moot.
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That's the big "????" in the "fraud ???? profit"
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I think the issue in most dissonance in politics these days don't even come policy objectives as it does from these culture wars that gained magnitude over the last several years. Just read a story about a brawl breaking out in a high school football game in Florida when one team waved a **Blue Lives Matter** flag on the field while the other team took a knee during the national anthem
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@busillis fraud is an overused term. Ballots submitted or counted in violation of Law is not necessarily Fraud Per Say.
With fraud you need to establish intent right?
Only possible in one or two states
or impropriety
@Adam135 correct. Election Laws can be Strick Liability....
If the bandaids you put on a conspiracy theory start to outweigh the skin, it's time for some sober reflection.
I don't think SCOTUS would overturn the election results per se, but I think they may, whether justified or not, can suspend or deny certification
If they reached that conclusion that is
If there is proof that legal votes postmarked by 11/3 were received after 11/3 that exceeded the margin of error, then they should provide that proof. I would also contend that the only way that 81k+ votes didn't get there in time was due to an illegal concerted effort to disenfranchise voters by purposely slowing down the mail delivery.
The supreme court can deny certification? That sounds wrong.
A lot of things have to happen for Trump to pull this off and so far that's not the trend
Is there any paper trail that would indicate when those ballots are collected or arrive at a processing center.
if they back-dated them, it would be pretty hard to discern those from ones that came before 11/3
@Adam135 i believe the Court can rule that the Election was held or counted in violation of Law and Null and Void. Not determine a winner. It would fall onto the Constitutional Requirements after that to determine the State Electors.
right, that's what I meant to say.
Basically no one gets PA's votes
The key to that being CAN
People are saying they are constantly muddying and then testing the waters for support of an actual military-backed coup.
@William Dinan Considering you're talking about state-specific laws, I'm not so sure.
had to go look it up. Presidents legal team is challenging 700k votes in PA that were counted while poll watchers weren't permitted to watch. So, the mail in vote issue was different.
Not denying certification but if they throw votes out due to it being unconstitutional, they could remand it back to count the legal votes which could change the outcome of certifying the winner.
I would assume so... there may be some via the USPS even. I think it matters the type of postage as to the level of tracking. That is why, I think, some states opted to pre-pay the postage on their envelopes. They don't get the postmark on some of those prepaid rates, so some states require the voter to supply postage. That's an over-simplification from what I recall off the top of my head.
@Steeler26 I don't see the unconstitutional argument for a lot of these cases. 77 is different because of how it changed.
Which was legislation from the bench.
@Maw State Courts yes. Federal Court's can uphold The US Constitution and Federal Laws. The US Constitution establishes the Authority to the State Legislature and the US Congress respectively.