Message from @busillis
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Sean hannity looks like he's ready to take Trump back in his mouth
Maybe just a picture
Fraud challenges and Election challenges are very different standards. Who can bring them and the damages and Remedy are very different.
If they take cases that can't legally be there, the rulings are not valid, amongst other problems. This shouldn't be an elusive concept.
Threats of personal/physical harm are reprehensible - regardless of which side is doing the threatening. Professional threats are part of doing business - companies and individuals vote with their pocket book all the time. Everybody does it - even the President.
Honestly the president shouldn't have tried to boycott/hold up private companies, I will fully admit this.
It’s not moot. Still pending in front of SCOTUS https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20-542.html
But specifically boycot.
I would say if the threats rise to the degree that it deprives a person of council that's beyond legitimate
There was about 10k mail-in ballots in PA that were postmarked by 11/3 that arrived after 11/3 and before end of day 11/6. These were set aside per Boockvar's and later Alito's orders.
It’s still pending. There’s now two cases in front of SCOTUS on PA issues.
Has anyone ever outlined how the voter fraud actually occurred
Not really.
Only if you trust their count of 10k
They chose not to weigh in before the vote certification. For purposes of this election, it is moot.
Magicians
That's the big "????" in the "fraud ???? profit"
Ninja magicians
Reptilian ninja magicians
I think the issue in most dissonance in politics these days don't even come policy objectives as it does from these culture wars that gained magnitude over the last several years. Just read a story about a brawl breaking out in a high school football game in Florida when one team waved a **Blue Lives Matter** flag on the field while the other team took a knee during the national anthem
@busillis fraud is an overused term. Ballots submitted or counted in violation of Law is not necessarily Fraud Per Say.
With fraud you need to establish intent right?
Only possible in one or two states
or impropriety
@Adam135 correct. Election Laws can be Strick Liability....
That’s your opinion. SCOTUS hasn’t ruled either way. Their certification means nothing.
If the bandaids you put on a conspiracy theory start to outweigh the skin, it's time for some sober reflection.
I don't think SCOTUS would overturn the election results per se, but I think they may, whether justified or not, can suspend or deny certification
If they reached that conclusion that is
If there is proof that legal votes postmarked by 11/3 were received after 11/3 that exceeded the margin of error, then they should provide that proof. I would also contend that the only way that 81k+ votes didn't get there in time was due to an illegal concerted effort to disenfranchise voters by purposely slowing down the mail delivery.
The supreme court can deny certification? That sounds wrong.
A lot of things have to happen for Trump to pull this off and so far that's not the trend
Is there any paper trail that would indicate when those ballots are collected or arrive at a processing center.
if they back-dated them, it would be pretty hard to discern those from ones that came before 11/3
@Adam135 i believe the Court can rule that the Election was held or counted in violation of Law and Null and Void. Not determine a winner. It would fall onto the Constitutional Requirements after that to determine the State Electors.
right, that's what I meant to say.
Basically no one gets PA's votes