Message from @Steeler26

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2020-12-06 21:47:02 UTC  

I would assume so... there may be some via the USPS even. I think it matters the type of postage as to the level of tracking. That is why, I think, some states opted to pre-pay the postage on their envelopes. They don't get the postmark on some of those prepaid rates, so some states require the voter to supply postage. That's an over-simplification from what I recall off the top of my head.

2020-12-06 21:47:11 UTC  

@Steeler26 I don't see the unconstitutional argument for a lot of these cases. 77 is different because of how it changed.

2020-12-06 21:47:25 UTC  

Which was legislation from the bench.

2020-12-06 21:47:37 UTC  

@Maw State Courts yes. Federal Court's can uphold The US Constitution and Federal Laws. The US Constitution establishes the Authority to the State Legislature and the US Congress respectively.

2020-12-06 21:48:28 UTC  

77 is definitely different for sure. Will be interesting if SCOTUS grants review of a state constitution arguably tied to the federal constitution.

2020-12-06 21:48:55 UTC  

It's a breach of the branches of power, it's definitely something unconstitutional.

2020-12-06 21:49:42 UTC  

@Maw. Seperation of Powers.

2020-12-06 21:49:54 UTC  

Yes, this is what I meant.

2020-12-06 21:50:12 UTC  

It is breaching the branch and reaching into another branch.

2020-12-06 21:50:14 UTC  

Will they prosecute the voters or is their votes being vetoed by the government enough punishment?

2020-12-06 21:51:05 UTC  

Attempted election tampering.

2020-12-06 21:51:08 UTC  

I don't know if the SCOTUS could offer that kind of relief.

2020-12-06 21:51:18 UTC  

I imagine they'd only say you have to change your law.

2020-12-06 21:51:23 UTC  

This is the filing that is on the docket for 12/8 - It outlines the case starting on Page 2 - Introduction:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20A98/162573/20201203162739451_Final_Emergency%20Application%20for%20Writ%20of%20Injunction.pdf

2020-12-06 21:51:54 UTC  

How does the health emergency play into this? Do the states not have power to do out of the ordinary things?

2020-12-06 21:52:19 UTC  

They do, as long as they have a public health emergency declared.

2020-12-06 21:52:31 UTC  

Or state of emergency.

2020-12-06 21:52:40 UTC  

States are the boss of states.

2020-12-06 21:52:57 UTC  

Unless you are messing with a federal law

2020-12-06 21:52:57 UTC  

@Steeler26, you just advanced to level 3!

2020-12-06 21:53:06 UTC  

Yeah, unless you're being unconstitutional.

2020-12-06 21:53:14 UTC  

Yup

2020-12-06 21:53:15 UTC  

Which Act 77 is.

2020-12-06 21:53:19 UTC  

@Zuluzeit a Voter may submit a Ballot that is in violation of the Law. That does not necessarily mean they have Criminal Liability.... Ie. Not signing their Absentee Ballot. Not a Crime, However still an Illegal Ballot.

2020-12-06 21:53:25 UTC  

Or what changes were inflicted on 77.

2020-12-06 21:53:36 UTC  

But if someone wanted to break chain of custody, could they do it without someone knowing for certain? Again not to implicate it happened on a massive scale.

2020-12-06 21:54:07 UTC  

What about states where marijuana legal

2020-12-06 21:54:14 UTC  

They're not following federal law

2020-12-06 21:54:15 UTC  

Just playin devil's advocate here

2020-12-06 21:55:00 UTC  

My opinion, it is against federal law when crossing state lines. Feds just won’t jump in on it.

2020-12-06 21:55:09 UTC  

At the marijuana example the federal government cut off banking but what can they do?

2020-12-06 21:55:20 UTC  

Right. It's referencing the 14th amendment where you find the equal protections clause

2020-12-06 21:55:21 UTC  

Does federal law even define marijuana possession's legality?

2020-12-06 21:55:34 UTC  

@busillis States do not have the authority to enforce Federal Law.

2020-12-06 21:55:34 UTC  

@William Dinan, you just advanced to level 11!

2020-12-06 21:56:05 UTC  

That seems outside the scope of federal law.

2020-12-06 21:56:08 UTC  

Ballots crossing state lines?

2020-12-06 21:56:20 UTC  

That’s a problem

2020-12-06 21:56:45 UTC  

@Steeler26 The military is a problem?