Message from @meglide

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2020-12-07 18:21:15 UTC  

Lmao 'The Left' isn't saying a damned word. That's not by accident.

2020-12-07 18:21:35 UTC  

They did more harm than good... Unless the point was only to sow doubt in Trump supporters' minds about the election so as to get them to influence their representatives to challenge the electors in DC.

2020-12-07 18:21:38 UTC  

This is 100% self inflicted humiliation.

2020-12-07 18:22:19 UTC  

Yes, direct appeal to credulity is the only explanation that makes sense.

2020-12-07 18:22:35 UTC  

You're almost there... You have to recognize that your premise may be wrong about the "evidence".

2020-12-07 18:23:11 UTC  

Our courts are not open pulpits. They have rules and standards.

2020-12-07 18:24:08 UTC  

The reports aren't fake, per se. They are dismissive, which is worse. The claims may not be able to stand up in court, but it is a mistake to just dismiss them out of hand.

2020-12-07 18:25:17 UTC  

I wish these cases were put together professionally enough to get these 'witnesses' on the stand.

2020-12-07 18:25:36 UTC  

It would be utter carnage.

2020-12-07 18:25:38 UTC  

@Beast This is compounded by the contrast in the RWM where they insist that it is an open and shut case for fraud.

2020-12-07 18:26:33 UTC  

a big part of it is that the Trump legal team has decided to take a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" approach. so they are filing simultaneous, redundant (somewhat) lawsuits in state and federal courts

2020-12-07 18:27:06 UTC  

The NV case showed that... Trump campaign lawyers brought forth their best witnesses and experts and they did not stand up well under cross examination during their depositions.

2020-12-07 18:27:45 UTC  

'But...it's so much that *some* of it must be true, right?'

That's the whole idea.

2020-12-07 18:28:09 UTC  

Rejected.

2020-12-07 18:31:43 UTC  

kind of like if I throw enough manure on these weeds they'll turn into flowers

2020-12-07 18:31:52 UTC  

Thank you for all of the responses. I am not versed in legal so it's been a bit confusing for me.

2020-12-07 18:33:27 UTC  

I personally just assumed, you're asking those who helped commit fraud, persecute themselves, it's not going to happen. But thats a lot simpler of an idea than all of the court information I am struggling lol

2020-12-07 18:33:27 UTC  

@Beast, you just advanced to level 1!

2020-12-07 18:34:33 UTC  

How long til those two are disbarred?

2020-12-07 18:35:42 UTC  

It would have to be malfeasance or something. They're just morons.

2020-12-07 18:36:30 UTC  

they're not going to be disbarred ... at least not for what we've seen so far in court

2020-12-07 18:37:09 UTC  

Fair point. Who knows that they were doing behind the scenes to put these case crackers together. Lol

2020-12-07 18:38:10 UTC  

I don't think they were that out of line just incompetent

2020-12-07 18:38:58 UTC  

Does anyone have an estimate of how much all these suits have cost?

2020-12-07 18:38:58 UTC  

@jfindley, you just advanced to level 9!

2020-12-07 18:39:23 UTC  

How much they cost or how much they are robbing trump supporters?

2020-12-07 18:39:39 UTC  

It may begin to make sense if you consider for a moment that President Trump telling his supporters for 7 months that there would be massive fraud created an environment where by 11/3 it was a forgone conclusion that the fix was in. On the other side, Dems were certain he would claim victory before the mail-in votes were counted and election workers were on edge anticipating delay tactics by Trump's supporters. It created a perfect storm.

Trump's supporters saw every act as a potential attempt at fraud, every worker as a potential suspect, and every ballot as being illegal until proven otherwise. Poll and election workers were on edge because they were working in a fish bowl and perceived that every interaction was an attempt to prevent them from getting work done.

We have dueling confirmation biases that ended up amplifying each other.

2020-12-07 18:39:47 UTC  

Just the cost.

2020-12-07 18:40:11 UTC  

That's hard to say but way less than the hundreds of millions they got

2020-12-07 18:40:47 UTC  

They arent going to say publically lol

2020-12-07 18:40:53 UTC  

So are affidavits not strong evidence?

2020-12-07 18:40:56 UTC  

not robbery, they gave money voluntary

2020-12-07 18:41:04 UTC  

Yeah, I'm just ball-parking here based on gross assumptions and complete fabrication of numbers in many places, but I'd figure somewhere in the 10-20 million range, grand total.

2020-12-07 18:41:52 UTC  

You can have people give you money voluntarily from a scam and be robbing then. This is legal but I mean ethical robbery

2020-12-07 18:42:55 UTC  

Televangelists. Nothing more.

2020-12-07 18:43:04 UTC  

In every sense.

2020-12-07 18:43:17 UTC  

Salvation is at hand!
(send money)

2020-12-07 18:43:37 UTC  

it is evidence, yes ... the strength of which is determined in court under cross-examination ... of course that would be done in trial and first the case must survive the pre-trial motion hearings

2020-12-07 18:43:40 UTC  

What I'm really curious to know, is... Does our POTUS and these hot-shot lawyers really take what they find on the 'chans, and run with it to the tune of publicly humiliating themselves while raking in tons of money?

I mean, is that really how all of this work? "The 'chans say fraud happened. Let's sue literally_everybody and make a big show of it."

2020-12-07 18:44:04 UTC  

Alot of info