Requiring proof of absence of existence has had fun consequences in other areas as well.

@GregInHouston#3736 they have done a million recounts and audits that refute all the huckster testimonies in the hotel lobbies. Mellisa carone was presented to the court and was found to be non credible. They have looked at this “evidence” it’s just hearsay within hearsay

Doc is a witch, btw.

And the Flying Spaghetti Monster is displeased with fraud talk.

@james j There was an audit in AZ. An audit was promised in GA but not done. None in PA or MI. Recounting 200,000 fraudulent votes is not meaningful!

@GregInHouston2 they don’t present fraud cases in court. How can you complain about not being heard when you don’t bring up fraud. The few times they tried they brought forth such weak evidence it was thrown out of court.

@james j you can't say there's no precedent set for evidence-free persecutions, think about the people who have been exonerated with DNA evidence.

@GregInHouston2 do you know what a audit is?

@Navarro If you accuse me of one specific act, at one specific time, I can prove my innocence by proving I could not have acted as pr your description. If you, however, accuse me of having "at a time and place unknown to the prosecutor" committed a murder, I will have a hard time proving anything.

Agreed.

The did two full recounts in GA. That’s above and beyond a audit @GregInHouston2

@james j Fraud was brought up every time. Dismissed on standing or laches doesn't allow for evidence.

Nope

@james j there's a technical term for stuffing ancillary garbage into an argument, just can't think of it right now. How convenient.

@busillis yes we have improved our legal system since then. Now we require actual evidence over witness testimony which is one of the poorest forms of evidence

@james j Although MI was dismissed because the claims were something. But no evidence was allowed. No audit ever conducted.

Because they didn’t have any @GregInHouston2

A recount is no where near the level of an audit.

@busillis were did I find you last?

I dont agree with that they have presented quite a few fraud cases. They are just running out of time to find evidence of some fraud.

Remember all of trumps original lawyer quit because they didn’t want to bring in frivolous lawsuits they knew would not stand up in court @GregInHouston2

okay, so anyone know of a good website that summarizes all the court cases relating to alleged fraud in the 2020 elections?

@james j Declaring they had no evidence does not make it true.

@Dedkraken the ones they did present was highly lacking in substance

A full hand recount goes way beyond audits.

@GregInHouston2 hearsay is not evidence

SO?

@GregInHouston2 you don’t know what a audit is

Yeah just saying there was a bunch James. Once the adult lawyers left fraud was the main thrust

@james j

@james j

@GregInHouston2 it means a unverifiable story is not evidence not admissible in court

@james j Then let us get the evidence!

> okay, so anyone know of a good website that summarizes all the court cases relating to alleged fraud in the 2020 elections?
@meglide Someone should definitely do that. I would also love a list of all the bizarre claims from the masses which were made before these guys knew how elections worked.

And now we're going back to the days of yore with machine learning crime prediction algorithms. I suppose some entity possesses nostalgia for the past.

Nothing is stopping the trump team from gathering evidence. The problem is they have none. What they presented in the hotel hearings have already been shown to be incorrect or unverifiable @GregInHouston2

@james j All we need is an audit like the did in AZ. If the claims are proven false then no one gets hurt. But you know that they will find the fraud.

Define a audit @GregInHouston2

@james j No it has not. We have video evidence of it. 100%

Omg the video thing again.

@james j Check the signatures! Check the addresses of the voters.