Message from @RobbieMoore
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@curious gal you can find exhibits and all that on court listener this one for instance is one of the "krakens" https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18693929/king-v-whitmer/
If you have trouble keeping track of the case names the Democrat team laid out a pretty sweet website with the current and prior cases and summaries and links to some of the court ongoing things. If theres a GOP equivalent to this I haven't seen it Guiliani doesn't seem that organized but someone can correct me if not. I find this easier than digging in the videos to remember which case was which
https://www.democracydocket.com/state/michigan/?by_case_type=active-cases
So for instance active things in Michigan is Kraken + others
The first page mentioned has the full deep dive stuff exhibits and evidence and such he is showing in the video
Sidney Powell says a lot of things.
I challenge them to define "free"
Hmm so Porter Wright and Jones Day left a while ago because they told Trump we looked and theres no fraud and we are growing increasingly uncomfortable in giving weight to claims there was and GOP congressmen by the dozens know this was legit but are too scared to say it in public. Their law firms had people quit in protest because what they were participating in undermines the fabric of our democracy.
So people say oh what's the harm of Guiliani, Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis taking over and digging in hard. What's wrong with having hours of testimony of people without a solid foundation of knowledge surrounding how elections are counted and how the machines work air those grievances and Trump playing fast and loose with the facts and having then continue to heap coal on the fire of distrust in the system with more theories without having solidly proven any of their prior theories.
This does not feel like a responsible search for facts or ways to improve election integrity and no amount of comprehensive audits or recounts or lost fraud cases is going to end in people accepting the results. Lin Wood is calling for martial law. Sidney Powell says forget the courts bring in the military and we will have military tribunals to decide. Guiliani says I might be about to commit a crime can you pardon me ahead of time. Right broadcasting is holding a conference for Lin and Sidney to heap more coal on the fire instead of heading to court and showing a case whole at the same time Trump goes on the campaign trail and they lead a prayer group to ask God for Trump to win. Jesus will prevail doesn't seem like a slogan for fact finding. What is the stopping point or do we need to see to put this in the rear view?
I'll still keep an open mind and watch this thing but it's getting concerning. They have their case in court. They havent proven fraud or referred a fraudster to the DoJ and I Iike that in a court if you allege fraud it had to be specific. But if they are just going on TV to allege a bunch more things and say you cant see the hard evidence yet wait for court in their "stop the fraud" news conference so help me. Get to work on your massive court case.
I read an interesting theory somewhere that the reason the fraud is so obvious is that they WANTED to be caught as a prelude to something else. Any thoughts?
My thought is that we shouldn't worry about that too much. It seems like getting caught would be the easy part and that hasn't happened. I figure we could expect whatever 'something else' is to fail as miserably as the intentionally getting caught part.
Putting the election in the rear view without verifying electoral integrity jeopardizes our Democratic Republic.
REMINDER: Sidney Powell and Lin Wood Press Conference today live at 1:05pm central today. Just under 2 hours from now. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=Vs1r_eXuspM
Oh good. More 'testimony'.
Don’t shoot the messenger🤣
> Putting the election in the rear view without verifying electoral integrity jeopardizes our Democratic Republic.
@PrivateEye If it requires proof of absence of existence, I suggest that ship has already sailed. If the only verification some people will accept has to comport with what they concluded from the start, there is only so much that can be done.
The ship has not sailed. Threatening situation for those who despise Trump.
Threatening how? Trump's attempts to steal are failing everywhere.
Historically speaking, this is how it's always been done. The supporters of the candidate that lost always feel that their candidate was robbed. Happened to Clinton 4 years ago... and she lost by fewer votes in the battleground states than Trump is losing by now, in an election where the popular vote differential was greater than ~35 presidential winning campaigns, on voting systems that were way less secure than today's systems, to an opponent that all the polls incorrectly predicted she would handily beat. When Clinton waited 8 hours to concede to Trump after he was projected the winner, conservatives lambasted her relentlessly for being a sore loser while votes were still being counted in battleground states. When Clinton supporters continued to challenge the election in an effort to make sure "all legal votes were counted and any illegal votes were not", conservatives went bananas and said it was time to turn the page for the good of the country.
Other races have been extremely close with claims of voter fraud... Kennedy/Nixon, Truman/Dewey, Carter/Ford, Nixon/Humphrey and more. In each of those cases, people who supported the losing candidates had to swallow a bitter pill for the good of the country.
For decades, minority voters have been impeded from casting legal votes (by both parties, at times) by the imposition of poll taxes, citizenship tests, fewer precincts/voting equipment per capita, faulty equipment, engineered delays in delivering/setting up voting equipment causing polls to open late and unable to process voters in a timely manner as minority workers had jobs that afforded little time to make it to the polls. These were well documented, litigated, and proven voter suppression schemes that disenfranchised voters... and the remedy has always been - "we can't change this election, but we can make an effort to make the next one better". It's practically the American way.
You responded to a superchat in your last video, about martial law being suggested by Lin Wood. This originated from an interview of Gen McInerney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9vwcO1KgpM
Im sorry but the fraud is so "obvious" neither the Trump Legal Team 1.0 nor DoJ nor Trump Legal Team 1.crazy can come up with verifiable provable cases of fraud isn't a thing
@PrivateEye By the way, I'm not saying that we should whitewash any provable voter fraud of a scale that would tip the election, but the discussions of legislatures attempting to override the election and the attempts to disenfranchise on a technicality the votes made in good faith by honest Americans should be something all conservatives abhor. I am hopeful that we can use the current momentum for ensuring fair elections to get some substantive permanent checks and balances into place. For example, we could pass and amendment that mandated a thorough, non-partisan/bipartisan post-election forensic examination of the voting systems in all 50 states. We could use the same risk limiting audit approach, but on a larger scale and with more depth, where random jurisdictions are selected in each state. This amendment could also mandate required investigations of any impropriety discovered with specified consequences for any candidate that it could be proven was complicit. It's a rough sketch, but you get the idea. I'm looking for ways that we can come out the other side of this with something more substantial than resentment and a loss of faith in the system - especially if this all turns out to be a massive case of confirmation bias where people saw behavior as suspicious because they were told that there would be fraud.
Are you high? Or just stupid
Well, they are failing everywhere so I don’t get stupid
Ok so can you explain this https://youtu.be/7skQR_uyS74
Lol
I need another reference beside a weird ass man on YouTube
If that is the case we’ll hear about it tomorrow at the latest
Well, then I guess we wait
Also there's this https://parler.com/post/306cc6b610f34d91af7249ddd20b9ff8
How does one aggressively register out of state and dead voters
Graverobbing? 🤣
People say a lot of things about what people say about a lot of things.
Like quickly and rapidly
I know voter rolls often have trouble cleaning dead people off the rolls in a timely manner which they say leads to dead voters but doesnt. But dead people registering onto rolls is new
Lmao ok
It becomes white noise to some. Others are very susceptible to gish gallopping.
That group goes to minority communities to convince people that dont vote to register. Wouldnt it make sense of they used to live there and moved they might not be there?
Well the process for a dead voter to vote does require someone to knowingly (as a objective reasonable standard) commit voter fraud.