@Maw Here, <gives nuclear handgrenade> pull the pin and wait ten seconds.

@Maw honestly the don't vote tactic can be useful if you are trying to force the party to action

It can also lead to one-party rule!

@meglide I think so. We can still discuss the issues and play within the rules.

@RobertGrulerEsq there are plenty of places to watch people pick apart the lawsuits, you are one of the few that look at the procedures and explains the technical legal jargon.

@RobertGrulerEsq exactly

@Maw yes, i would agree that this specific election is not a great time to do it. But it can be a useful tactic

I don't want one party rule. I want the DNC to go the way of the Dodo and be replaced by a slightly left leaning Libertarian party.

@Maw esp. considering how lackluster the republican party has been the past 4 years

@Whithers that would be the current republican party

The RNC is as divided as the DNC.

Appreciate that @Phil

RNC is the democrat party of 10 years ago

The RNC has a form of confused libertarian.

RNC and DNC both run on an America Last platform

I might meet you from the right side on that one ... smaller government is better government

It's like, half way there, but stuck on some things.

Up until WW II the average life expectancy of a rural adult male was 34 and a city male was 42. Then all the medical advances kicked in and we have 3.5 generations in the work force and voting force - each has their own agenda, each has a completely different experience, related by not the same political polarities, and all are attempting to effect their agenda with the same limited resources.

average life expectancy is highly misleading

due to the infant mortality rate

For anyone whom doesnt know about it trumps administration has created a website for actual news on election updates since every platform is suppressing everything it's called thedonald.win

control for that and its more reasonable

@meglide I do not care about the size of government. It must be the necessary size to do the job correctly. Small is as bad as large if the result is failure.

@HappyHappyHappy thanks

@ImNotGas 1 in 73 men were permanently disabled and 1 in 143 killed on the job annually. In a community like mine where the total population is 325 the infant mortality does not have any significant effect.

Np spread the word too many outlets suppressing the truth.

@Whithers medical advances does not account for the increase in life expectancy and mortality

Libertarian viewpoint is have the government only do what it absolutely has to do ... and thus smaller is better because the more the government does the more it is likely to violate or infringe your rights

@RobertGrulerEsq I hope you have a good few days (sort of off) and a good weekend. Looking forward to Monday. Keep your chin up.

Thanks @Maw I appreciate that. Today was a long one for a lot of reasons. Appreciate all the support. I'm off for the evening, everyone thanks again and have a wonderful night!

I too am going to go relax for a bit before bed. I will still be available to moderate for a few hours if something comes up, so hit me up and I'll take care of it if I'm awake.

@Phil The defeat within a generation of typhus, cholera, distemper, rickets, gonorrhea, syphilis, mumps, measles, chickenpox, legionaires, yellow fever, malaria, tuberculosis, polio, etc. accounts for a vast amount of that change.

@Whithers its not due to medical advances though.

@RobertGrulerEsq and @Maw you both have a good night

Likewise unto all you fine folks.

You too @meglide

Have a great seminar... Stay safe.

@meglide I am aware of the Libertarian point of view. I consider it shortsighted based on my study of history, humanity, ethics, politics, and religion. It has valid critiques, but is no less devastating an ideology than Marxism in that it would never work.

@Phil Incorrect, 😉

for those of you can't sleep ... I'll be doing a little probability and statistics here on those duplicate ballots in AZ ... probably put me to sleep also

worked for a good while here in the USA