@busillis All that is needed for a state to fail is for its citizens to stop upholding its virtues. How it fails, is the consequence, not the cause.

Suicide by other country?

And I considered myself a Reagan Republican, at the time.

sure. A state can commit suicide by not being able to defend itself against a foreign enemy. @busillis

The cause then, is its inability to defend itself.

That sounds like an indictment of the Left to me.

Incorrect. Those effects did not occur because of Reagan. Reagan's response was the effort to reduce the penalty of blossoming globalism as the teleconference and private jet resulted in the ability of corporatists to manage facilities on the otherside of the globe where they could use slave labor or if forced to pay, pay only 10 cents an hour.

and that's different from the Right how?

I am quite aware of the corporate influence on everything... I have posted about it many times. There are things that occurred to allow that to happen.

@busillis nothing I say now, or in the future can be taken as endorsement of any side of the left-right spectrum. I regard that as a tertiary phenomenon and datapoints, of the same value as a where on a pain chart the patient points.

Despite the status of the state, the foundation, always the people.

not the corporations either

He was the one that paved the way for it to happen....

Enlighten me...

It seems like you're trying to elicit a thoughtful response, I don't know if I'm capable at this juncture. I'll get back to you in a few.

As scheduled in gradual procession to the return of cyclical events.

No, he did not. He was in no way responsible for that technology. He attempted to reduce the penalties on those that found it cheaper to abandon their nation for foreign labor. and the Unions were complicit. They agreed to have their jobs shipped to Sri Lanka if doing so would keep high returns on their profit shares and retirement packages. (The name for Profit Sharing 100 years ago was Microcommunism.)

@busillis nono, just a caveat. I dont view politics as particulary important, other than datapoints with origin in the past.

That is kind of like saying, "I don't consider matter" to be important.

The cause fully understands the consequence.

@Whithers That is possible. Matter is a product of the senses.

Defend?

@Doc That is the exact opposite of reality on a tangent. Senses attempt to detect reality. They do not create it. Existence is regardless of the accuracy of one's awareness of it.

@inwa yes=

Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Nixon ... Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act, FDR ordered citizens to hand over their physical gold at $20/ounce and once they did promptly change it to $35/ounce and Nixon ended the convertibility of the dollar to gold by foreign nations ending the Bretton Woods system agreed to after WW2. This means our currency is fully a fiat currency and the federal government is able to run deficits eternally and the Federal Reserve will monetize the debt. ... Until the crack-up boom.

@Whithers Your world is highy politicized and polerized. Mine is apolitical and full of gray-spectrums. I have nothing bad to say about your world, it just isnt mine. I dont think, however, it is possible for two people with so different understandings of the world around them to have a meaningful discussion.

does anyone know anythign about Gitlab?

? Is that a production facility for a specific stereotype of Englishman?

supposedly that is where the leaked CCP list can be found but I don’t know if it’s a legit site

enough to know I don't care for it

Fiat is backed by the force of the military, the citizens probably don't want to see what that looks like, those citizens of many other nations have.

The time bombs Reagan set were egregiously reckless.

Still back reading.

To be fair, he genuinely believed in some bad ideas.

I thought Reagans job was collect and read good jokes?

Hahaha

and when you can't feed your military? ... you are done

Scorched Earth Ronnie

Its fitting that a man who made it his mission to be funny, was shot as a prank.

Nope. Reagan was supposed to play Cowboys badly. 😉

😄

The military will be the last to go hungry.