Like we have the best military in the world and some of the most dedicated troops, but of all places to go waste blood and treasure for 15 years, Afghanistan?

My dad literally said America is a country for everyone 😩

gross

Going back to the conspiracy theory subject

There’s people who think that the atomic bomb is a hoax

I was watching a war documentary on that war ( I think the one on the Korengal Valley) and the troops said they say they get ambushed next to where shell casings are from when the British Empire was.

@DixieBoy76 - KY It *would* solve a lot of problems if that were true. Wishful thinking

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN That would be my guess.

People just like to *believe* in conspiracy theories

most people who believe in conspiracy theories just think conspiracy theories are fun and find ways to justify them after the fact

It doesn’t matter how silly. It often times consumes them. This is how I view the people who blame literally everything on the Jews. Like, yes. I get it, Jews have a disproportionate representation in certain fields. We all agree on that. But to say that they’re some superhuman race that controls the strings on every major world event is simply *wishful thinking*. Why do I say wishful thinking? Because for them, it gives them an excuse to believe that this isn’t somehow our own fault too.

I mean, imagine how society would change (both for worse and better) if there was someway to prove that the world couldn't be destroyed, or that certain nations weren't practically invincible. Borders would start changing all over the place.

I think cold war nuke fear is a big part of the nihilism of Boomers & X'er s. Climate Change has supplanted / supplemented that nihilism for Millenials and Zoomers

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN That’s a fascinating way to look at it. Never thought about it that way. I’m sure it’s a variety of reasons, but that’s a factor I’m sure.

A lot of baby boomers do seem very apathetic. But I think that it’s for a variety of reasons. However, your hypothesis does seem to be confirmed by the fact that a lot of boomers are mentally trapped in the age of the Cold War.

seriously though has anyone's parents said something worse than "this country belongs to no one, it's for everyone"?

@Jacob Not really, but I do pity you. Keep your chin up.

haha I just don't bother trying to debate politics with him

Maybe go the Jared Taylor route and just try to agree on small things like the “press 1 for English”. I mentioned that to my mom and it started off a really good dialogue.

oh I'm sure my dad loves being able to choose different languages on the phone

As much as leftists get made fun of for the “dialogue” meme, dialogue is important.

I agree with what Mr Taylor said, but with my parents in particular there's literally no point

I have nothing to gain from trying with them

there's always going to be some people that you just can't convert

I think that overall debating isn’t something that should be done between family members. That’s how I was raised anyway.

We focus on loving one another and strengthening our bonds and just enjoying being related. Or that’s what I try to do.

I don't really have an opinion on that because my only "family members" are my parents

And we don't really get along for non-political reasons

I’m sorry to hear that brother. I’ll pray for y’all.

Thanks

And if you ever need anything feel free to reach out fam. We’re a big family here.

So do you just not discuss politics with your family, or is *debating* in particular that you're against?

Debating in particular

Ah. My dad has too much of an emotional barrier to have a discussion about any of these ideas without it becoming an argument. My mom has the same emotional barrier, but she does occasionally ask questions in good faith, even though she'd never switch sides.

That’s fair. I think with most people it’s the emotional barrier that makes it difficult.

🐄 Just exercised my White Anglo-Saxon privilege by downing a glass of milk, boys. 🥛

Well, most people have an emotional barrier just because of social pressure, which can be broken with time. But my parents are literally immigrants so have fun convincing them that immigration is bad lmao

I've been talking to my mom about this for 6 months or so, and she really is starting to see clearly. She was more neoconservative before, but she is much more identitarian now

@Jordan - MD that’s great. My mom has been slowly coming to the identitarian viewpoint too. I really regret my “alt right” phase though. It was really cringe.

PS Check out your DMs.

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I have a pretty broad scope of what the alt right is and I see no particular issue with them. I just think it's best that people proceed forward with praising and promoting the proper things that help our cause rather than denigrating and disapproving of the things they don't like. If you notice in movements like pro-choice and pro-life, both groups want to be Pro something and neither wish to be against anything. It is better for optics if an organization is, for example, promoting awareness for European culture and Heritage, and are not doing so in conjunction with denigrating another culture or race overtly, at least optically, in my opinion, it's a lot more effective. @DixieBoy76 - KY

@Jordan - MD Part of the problem was exactly that "alt right" is too broad. Nobody even knew what it meant, it was everything from MAGApedes, to WNs, to Neo-Nazis. Having a precise label like "identitarian" keeps your movement from losing focus