haha I just don't bother trying to debate politics with him

Maybe go the Jared Taylor route and just try to agree on small things like the “press 1 for English”. I mentioned that to my mom and it started off a really good dialogue.

oh I'm sure my dad loves being able to choose different languages on the phone

As much as leftists get made fun of for the “dialogue” meme, dialogue is important.

I agree with what Mr Taylor said, but with my parents in particular there's literally no point

I have nothing to gain from trying with them

there's always going to be some people that you just can't convert

I think that overall debating isn’t something that should be done between family members. That’s how I was raised anyway.

We focus on loving one another and strengthening our bonds and just enjoying being related. Or that’s what I try to do.

I don't really have an opinion on that because my only "family members" are my parents

And we don't really get along for non-political reasons

I’m sorry to hear that brother. I’ll pray for y’all.

Thanks

And if you ever need anything feel free to reach out fam. We’re a big family here.

So do you just not discuss politics with your family, or is *debating* in particular that you're against?

Debating in particular

Ah. My dad has too much of an emotional barrier to have a discussion about any of these ideas without it becoming an argument. My mom has the same emotional barrier, but she does occasionally ask questions in good faith, even though she'd never switch sides.

That’s fair. I think with most people it’s the emotional barrier that makes it difficult.

🐄 Just exercised my White Anglo-Saxon privilege by downing a glass of milk, boys. 🥛

Well, most people have an emotional barrier just because of social pressure, which can be broken with time. But my parents are literally immigrants so have fun convincing them that immigration is bad lmao

I've been talking to my mom about this for 6 months or so, and she really is starting to see clearly. She was more neoconservative before, but she is much more identitarian now

@Jordan - MD that’s great. My mom has been slowly coming to the identitarian viewpoint too. I really regret my “alt right” phase though. It was really cringe.

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I have a pretty broad scope of what the alt right is and I see no particular issue with them. I just think it's best that people proceed forward with praising and promoting the proper things that help our cause rather than denigrating and disapproving of the things they don't like. If you notice in movements like pro-choice and pro-life, both groups want to be Pro something and neither wish to be against anything. It is better for optics if an organization is, for example, promoting awareness for European culture and Heritage, and are not doing so in conjunction with denigrating another culture or race overtly, at least optically, in my opinion, it's a lot more effective. @DixieBoy76 - KY

@Jordan - MD Part of the problem was exactly that "alt right" is too broad. Nobody even knew what it meant, it was everything from MAGApedes, to WNs, to Neo-Nazis. Having a precise label like "identitarian" keeps your movement from losing focus

I absolutely agree. It cuts through all the clutter

Right down to the bare bones of it most of us agree on this *one thing*, save for a few magapedes. This movement is clearly the proper direction forward

Plus I think of all magapedes as reachable

White identity isn’t a trademark of Richard Spencer the idea that anyone on the right who doesn’t agree with neocons has to use his term is inherently stupid

@unclefesterr that is a good and level headed take.

Maybe a rebranding as “Identity Columbia” or simply “Identity America” would better serve our interests. Canada managed it with “Identity Canada”.

some of your parents sound fun

Just my thought

must be nice to have parents who at least somewhat agree with you politically

I watch Tucker with my dad

Is anyone a reader of Dr Greg Johnson counter-currents ?

I've found that right wing family members generally tolerate identitarianism, though not from personal experience, my family doesn't know what I do lol

@DixieBoy76 - KY I'll admit that identity Columbia sounds really cool but unfortunately I feel like it would be lost on most people. Most people are unaware that DC even stands for District of Columbia. They would probably think it was a foreign Lobby group to be honest with you, identity evropa speaks to Our Roots as Europeans, I think it's rather effective. And no matter what we change our name to they're going to label us supremacists regardless.

Columbia is the female representation of America

@V.Balboa - PA Counter Currents is great

Identity Columbia is essentially the same thing as identity evropa