@everyone

Like I originally stated in March: Covid-19 is a blown kiss in a boxing match for humanity, much like influenza has been for decades. The data supports this claim. It is not going away, it will be part of the human experience, just like influenza. I'm happy to hear of progress in developing the vaccine. People will have access to a defense against this virus soon, if they so choose to take it. I would suggest that anyone who is at risk of serious harm or death from viruses be vaccinated against them. Vaccines serve a valuable purpose. The measles vaccine literally protects children from potential brain damage.
Have you noticed that the fad of this hysteria and panic has fizzled away? I blame the 3.4% death rate warning from the WHO for much of this global panic. A complete and utter failure. I am no mathematician, but my probabalistic equations proved to be superior to the WHO math.
Then we have the assumption that human beings CAN be successful in social distancing... A social ape, social distancing... You need only go to your local grocery store to see that they are not, even when they think they are.
I hope we learn valuable lessons from this trial and error approach to governing citizens safety.

I tested negative for covid today 🙂 not that anyone should care. Haha

I had it never felt sick

Having a strong immune system helps you a lot. Lowering your sugar intake + Vitamine D + Zinc + Vitamine C + Resveratrol greatly improves your Immunity (7-12 times over the average in response to combatting previously unknown pathogens)

Wars are always easier to start than they are to stop. If a vaccine is not developed, we will be wearing masks for the next 5 years.

@Yussuki ₪ what about drinking bleach ? 😂

Stop wearing the mask. Record people saying they lie about their travels. Expose the sham that this is

Anyone who still believes the hoax that Trump said anyone should inject or ingest bleach is either lazy or ideologically possessed

Drinking bleach is stupid. Virus cant survive in the gut anyway :)) But many ppl do it , Stone.

Your views on the Woodward tapes @JPMcGlone

Preface: I’m from NY and understand Trump’s choices in language differently than many of my peers.

I think Trump understands he cannot predict the future. He followed the advice of “the experts” and lead from a position that was meant to limit panic.

He definitely downplayed the potential worst case scenario. He also up played the potential best case scenario.

I believe in a democratic REPUBLIC and know that trump isn’t responsible for me. He’s one of the last people in this country who is responsible for me, so his opinions or advice don’t really make a difference to me.

I remember when he was shutting down flights from China and NY Democrats were saying “go to the Chinese fair! Don’t pay attention to your racist president”

I agreed. If you wanted to go to the fair, go. If you didn’t, don’t.

Boy how the Democrats flipped from individual liberty to “Trump is in charge of us all” so quickly 😉

What do you think the head of the state is responsible for? If not for the people?

And also - you don’t see anything wrong with lying? Or misrepresentation at the lowest?

Preface: I don’t have skin in this game; asking questions only.

Least* not lowest

To protect the nation by protecting the land and setting the general framework for prosperity to happen.

What constitutes a nation? Protecting the land for whom? Prosperity of whom?

😂

I'm so sorry that I missed this conversation.

It’s never too late

Here’s a covid story. We have a study hall period at my school. I asked my supervisor, who is the school’s biology teacher, if a friend and I could work together at a large table opposite each other. She put her hand on her head in frustration, “I’ve been having to shut off my scientific brain and turn on my robot brain,” she said, “the administration says no, and you have to sit outside if you want, but you have to sit next to each other and not facing.” I responded, “all of the masks and the distancing and the one way hallways are religious ritual to an invisible god, isn’t it.” “It sure is,” she said.

Went over my head. Are you saying masks don’t reduce the likelihood of the spread of the virus?

I would be bad if I'd say: "Yes, masks reduce the likelihood" because we have no study. I would also be bad if I'd say: "No, masks don't reduce the likelihood" because still we have no study. I don't know if we can have a comprehensive study to ask this question and on which we could all agree. I think most people go by the logic that: "Having a mask is better than no mask in fighting the virus." - Argument being that: "Having something is better than nothing." I can also understand that logic. But can other people also understand that there might be diminishing returns in the Grand Scheme of Things on obliging people to wear masks ? It seems to be a trade-off. Is it worth it? I'd pose the following question: "Let's assume wearing masks is a tradeoff. Let's assume also that wearing masks is a a negative trade-off on the long run and we are all aware of it. Than: How can we diminish the negative trade-offs in the future and still be wearing masks?" **** ======= ****So from what she was saying, you and your friend can stay "back to back" or "side to side" or "ear to ear in a straight line" 😂 @ Zurich That's a good one :)))

Hmm - this is quite painful. Masks don’t reduce likelihood of virus transfer. I guess nothing is self- evident.

When have masks not helped with airborne pathogens? Yes it’s too soon for data on Corona specifically. We do have data on airborne pathogens. It’s why we cover ourselves when we sneeze. I believe that this is a case where we can be safe to assume that many of the rules apply.

Exactly.

All I wonder is how many of the precautions are more for psychological effect, especially considering that most people don’t follow them strictly and the enforcement isn’t 100%

Zino
Wearing a mask stops tiny droplets. Tiny droplets can contain covid19. Wearing a mask. stops covid19.
Is there a problem with that?

Compelled Germophobia is a terrible idea. We understand the risks and wish that those most scared of it would choose to stay home and network as they see fit. The rest of us will work and network as we see fit.

The costs of the rules we *must follow* during COVID are incalculable.

People who say no to the lockdowns and masks have access to the same information you do. You can assume you’re just smarter than they are, or you can realize that they prioritize things differently; and they have that right.

Chicken Little was afraid the sky was falling, and was easy to manipulate by the Fox. I am neither chicken little nor the Fox, and you’ll need to literally kill me because I won’t play that game

Compelled germophobia?? I’d hope that everyone would be precautious at a possibly life threatening virus that can put others at extreme risk