Ok..but taxes need to be thought of and imposed by some Entity to serve a goal, right? 😛

here’s a question: how do you overcome moral relativistic counterarguments?

@Yussuki ₪ high taxes and social reforms are hardly an innovation

By arguing that objectivity doest not exist, since it is a mater of frame of reference ? is it ok ?

the point is the people pay for those programs...if no one pays those high taxes then those programs fail

> By arguing that objectivity doest not exist, since it is a mater of frame of reference ? is it ok ?
@Yussuki ₪ I meant the opposite lol

Yes I agree 🥳

like someone saying well that is what YOU think

Oh I believe that is actually easier to debunk 😄

I went on a date (kinda) and we talked about Warren Buffet

and how he hardly spends his billions

I said if I were in his position I would dedicate my time left to doing good

I would ask that person the following: Than tell me with is the minimum common ground you are prepared to accept and lets discuss on that 🙂

Interesting

he, on the other hand, is obsessed with work. THAT is his happiness

I said that’s a rather pointless existence (Camus’ existentialist positions aside lol)

That is worth debating. Wow.

Supposedly he plans to donate like 40 billion to the Gates foundation

the generalization is wealth accumulation and the point of that

There’s a real estate Mogul with a garage of cars worth $30,000,000

I’m like...ok?

enter arguments of materialism, psychological egoism etc

You could argue for wealth accumumlation and ego also . You could argue both ways, but it depends on which argument you like more and accept 🙂

Is hard to argue in such way NOT TO turn your partner into an enemy..

I guess what I mean is...is there a point to owning 30,000,000 worth of cars?

when the same wealth could have been used to help people and animals in dire need? 🤷🏻‍♂️

excuse my idealism but I am partial to Plato lol

the effect on the masses is to want the same thing...they focus on money and accumulation of wealth and then wonder why their lives lack fulfillment

I was just on YouTube. Saw an ad for a documentary called Betting on Zero where a billionaire tries to short HerbalLife stock in order to expose that it’s a pyramid scheme that preys on the working class and savings

I had a friend do some type of MLM...it’s amazing how much in denial he was in despite the fact that he lost money and never made any money

> Is hard to argue in such way NOT TO turn your partner into an enemy..
@Yussuki ₪ I embrace disagreement since it leads to an opportunity to reconcile differences and reach a more generalizable view

I perfectly agree 🥨

cool but what are your thoughts?

I totally agree with you I dont know what more to add.

We've had a lot of cases like this in my country where ppl lost their homes to ponzi schemes and MLM.

In my opinion, the fundamental layer that cascades to the surface amplifying and creating exponentially more problems in society is greed.

@Ozymandias you transferred $30M to people who built cars.

https://s4n0i.github.io/schoolofathens/?fbclid=IwAR2wOStIx75tgva8txn-RGdtR-k9ZtDhadT1L-QTCGgO-pTbV_bo6sjLz40

This is so insanely cool. It's a visualization of philosophers and their influence.

How do we feel about weak vs strong differentiated citizenship in the USA? Do our overseas friends have anything like this?

What is that?