Message from @Ozymandias

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2020-09-21 20:17:19 UTC  

Zurich ?

2020-09-21 20:25:13 UTC  

I believe it's morally justifiable for a child to sue his parent, after his parent refused to enroll him in school for the legal minimum number of years.

2020-09-21 20:26:28 UTC  

Otherwise, if you just let parents withdraw their children from school without penalty or incentive, they would misuse this law and create a generation of less productive youngsters lacking education.

2020-09-21 20:27:29 UTC  

And the collective well-being should prevale on the long term

2020-09-21 20:33:42 UTC  

*The smallest minority is the schyzophrenic individual 😂

2020-09-21 20:34:21 UTC  

*Or the multiple personalities individual

2020-09-21 20:35:44 UTC  

Americans appear to be too individualistic to realize that the success of a society rezides in coherent collectivist behaviour, properly oriented to national goals.

2020-09-21 20:37:47 UTC  

The so-called "successful individuals" like entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, engineers produce and grow their wealth within and FOR society, not on Mars.

2020-09-21 20:39:31 UTC  

If the Government doesn't oblige the Megarich to comply with the rules and pay taxes, he will squander his profits on luxury and society won't profit at all. This is wy is moral for him to pay taxes.

2020-09-21 20:40:38 UTC  

And it's a bad idea to have rich people in policymaking. Their will act in self interest, while professional politicians are accountable to their electors.

2020-09-21 20:42:49 UTC  

Every Authoritarian regime in the world has been lead by Megarich. While the successful ones like Ireland and Scandinavia have always been lead by professional community-based accountable politicians

2020-09-21 20:56:58 UTC  

Sorry Zino - caught up in some work

2020-09-22 02:12:11 UTC  

My school is consuming my life, wish I could talk more

2020-09-22 02:13:25 UTC  

> My school is consuming my life, wish I could talk more
@Zurich04 we are gonna be having town halls on the weekends so maybe you can join for a bit. :)

2020-09-22 02:13:44 UTC  

Awesome, I’ll plan on it

2020-09-22 11:41:39 UTC  

> Every Authoritarian regime in the world has been lead by Megarich. While the successful ones like Ireland and Scandinavia have always been lead by professional community-based accountable politicians
@Yussuki ₪ no, it has been led by taxes

2020-09-22 11:44:41 UTC  

Ok..but taxes need to be thought of and imposed by some Entity to serve a goal, right? 😛

2020-09-22 11:44:50 UTC  

here’s a question: how do you overcome moral relativistic counterarguments?

2020-09-22 11:45:30 UTC  

@Yussuki ₪ high taxes and social reforms are hardly an innovation

2020-09-22 11:45:35 UTC  

By arguing that objectivity doest not exist, since it is a mater of frame of reference ? is it ok ?

2020-09-22 11:46:04 UTC  

the point is the people pay for those programs...if no one pays those high taxes then those programs fail

2020-09-22 11:46:38 UTC  

> By arguing that objectivity doest not exist, since it is a mater of frame of reference ? is it ok ?
@Yussuki ₪ I meant the opposite lol

2020-09-22 11:46:39 UTC  

Yes I agree 🥳

2020-09-22 11:46:55 UTC  

like someone saying well that is what YOU think

2020-09-22 11:47:14 UTC  

Oh I believe that is actually easier to debunk 😄

2020-09-22 11:47:22 UTC  

I went on a date (kinda) and we talked about Warren Buffet

2020-09-22 11:47:38 UTC  

and how he hardly spends his billions

2020-09-22 11:48:05 UTC  

I said if I were in his position I would dedicate my time left to doing good

2020-09-22 11:48:07 UTC  

I would ask that person the following: Than tell me with is the minimum common ground you are prepared to accept and lets discuss on that 🙂

2020-09-22 11:48:15 UTC  

Interesting

2020-09-22 11:48:34 UTC  

he, on the other hand, is obsessed with work. THAT is his happiness

2020-09-22 11:49:37 UTC  

I said that’s a rather pointless existence (Camus’ existentialist positions aside lol)

2020-09-22 11:50:19 UTC  

That is worth debating. Wow.

2020-09-22 11:50:51 UTC  

Supposedly he plans to donate like 40 billion to the Gates foundation

2020-09-22 11:51:17 UTC  

the generalization is wealth accumulation and the point of that

2020-09-22 11:51:39 UTC  

There’s a real estate Mogul with a garage of cars worth $30,000,000

2020-09-22 11:51:51 UTC  

I’m like...ok?

2020-09-22 11:52:24 UTC  

enter arguments of materialism, psychological egoism etc

2020-09-22 11:53:11 UTC  

You could argue for wealth accumumlation and ego also . You could argue both ways, but it depends on which argument you like more and accept 🙂

2020-09-22 11:53:54 UTC  

Is hard to argue in such way NOT TO turn your partner into an enemy..

2020-09-22 11:54:06 UTC  

I guess what I mean is...is there a point to owning 30,000,000 worth of cars?