Message from @drenath

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2020-09-22 11:50:19 UTC  

That is worth debating. Wow.

2020-09-22 11:50:51 UTC  

Supposedly he plans to donate like 40 billion to the Gates foundation

2020-09-22 11:51:17 UTC  

the generalization is wealth accumulation and the point of that

2020-09-22 11:51:39 UTC  

There’s a real estate Mogul with a garage of cars worth $30,000,000

2020-09-22 11:51:51 UTC  

I’m like...ok?

2020-09-22 11:52:24 UTC  

enter arguments of materialism, psychological egoism etc

2020-09-22 11:53:11 UTC  

You could argue for wealth accumumlation and ego also . You could argue both ways, but it depends on which argument you like more and accept 🙂

2020-09-22 11:53:54 UTC  

Is hard to argue in such way NOT TO turn your partner into an enemy..

2020-09-22 11:54:06 UTC  

I guess what I mean is...is there a point to owning 30,000,000 worth of cars?

2020-09-22 11:54:37 UTC  

when the same wealth could have been used to help people and animals in dire need? 🤷🏻‍♂️

2020-09-22 11:55:09 UTC  

excuse my idealism but I am partial to Plato lol

2020-09-22 11:56:46 UTC  

the effect on the masses is to want the same thing...they focus on money and accumulation of wealth and then wonder why their lives lack fulfillment

2020-09-22 11:58:01 UTC  

I was just on YouTube. Saw an ad for a documentary called Betting on Zero where a billionaire tries to short HerbalLife stock in order to expose that it’s a pyramid scheme that preys on the working class and savings

2020-09-22 11:59:24 UTC  

I had a friend do some type of MLM...it’s amazing how much in denial he was in despite the fact that he lost money and never made any money

2020-09-22 12:00:39 UTC  

> Is hard to argue in such way NOT TO turn your partner into an enemy..
@Yussuki ₪ I embrace disagreement since it leads to an opportunity to reconcile differences and reach a more generalizable view

2020-09-22 12:42:11 UTC  

I perfectly agree 🥨

2020-09-22 13:40:31 UTC  

cool but what are your thoughts?

2020-09-22 15:31:30 UTC  

I totally agree with you I dont know what more to add.

2020-09-22 15:32:25 UTC  

We've had a lot of cases like this in my country where ppl lost their homes to ponzi schemes and MLM.

2020-09-22 15:33:50 UTC  

In my opinion, the fundamental layer that cascades to the surface amplifying and creating exponentially more problems in society is greed.

2020-09-22 15:34:05 UTC  

@Ozymandias you transferred $30M to people who built cars.

2020-09-24 00:53:56 UTC  

This is so insanely cool. It's a visualization of philosophers and their influence.

2020-09-24 14:44:46 UTC  

How do we feel about weak vs strong differentiated citizenship in the USA? Do our overseas friends have anything like this?

2020-09-24 15:09:00 UTC  

What is that?

2020-09-24 15:32:32 UTC  

Something I'm studying in my political philosophy class. It's the concept that different groups of citizens have different rights. In theory all citizens should have equal rights, but some groups maintain special rights.

2020-09-24 15:32:50 UTC  

Like?

2020-09-24 15:33:25 UTC  

I condemn that

2020-09-24 15:46:49 UTC  

Are there time when it may be useful?

2020-09-24 15:47:27 UTC  

I don’t even know what you’re talking about to be able to comment. I asked above what type of special rights for what type of people are you referring to?

2020-09-24 15:48:07 UTC  

So the obvious example is Native Americans. they don't pay many federal taxes, and they have special access to educational benefits.

2020-09-24 15:49:01 UTC  

It’s not so obvious to people who are maybe not from the USA. I thought they were only given lands and could grow weed and play cards on them.

2020-09-24 15:49:28 UTC  

Where are you from?

2020-09-24 15:49:30 UTC  

Is affirmative action also an example?

2020-09-24 15:50:09 UTC  

I cannot say for personal security reasons. Sorry.

2020-09-24 15:52:41 UTC  

Affirmative action is an example. Though I think it has been walked back in the usa

2020-09-24 15:53:42 UTC  

How about any quotas based on geographic location, skin color, religions, language, ethnicity etc etc

2020-09-24 15:54:07 UTC  

Or whether naturalized citizens can become the president ?

2020-09-24 15:54:38 UTC  

ooh, the prsident one is a great question

2020-09-24 15:55:09 UTC  

Yea - I often think about these things as separate issues

2020-09-24 15:55:24 UTC  

I guess we do have separate types of citizenship.