We need to define the terms.

The market. Corporations are designed top down because they're meant to do really well for a while then die, if we build our economy at large that way then... well I don't need to explain why dying is bad, do I?

"Should the people serve the nation or should the nation serve the people?" @Erathrys

Bottom up systems last for a long time.

Well, in that case it would depend on the values of the people.

The nation IS the people.

Didn't you just say the economy was the people?

You did, actually, or at least zayan did

@The Big Oof
A nation is a group of ideas, people and culture. So it's just like the economy question, if people are a part of it, it doesn't make sense.

the people 🇨🇳

But the people aren't separate from the nation.

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I did say that. Funny.

The people are separate from the nation.

The people are a part of the economy, the people are part of the nation. They aren't the only thing in the economy/nation though.

If the Nation is the laws which govern it, and the people are constrained by, and disagree to those laws...

If all people died would a nation still exist?

Then the Nation is not working for the people.

Oh ok.

A people can exist without a nation

No, you're replacing the word "Government" with "Nation."

But a nation can't exist without a people.

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yeah

But a nation doesn't serve or disserve people, the government does that. The people and their culture are what makes up a nation.

So the people are a separate entity from the nation itself.

No.

I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm just pointing out that you're attempting to divorce the people from something the people themselves are.

@Zayan Watchel Except it does


I don't understand what doesn't make sense about it.

"But the all people are part of the economy."

Yes, should those people expect the economy to conform to them, meaning should it be built around their culture and society, or, should their society be built around the economy?

@Zayan Watchel

If they can exist without a nation

Then they have to be a separate entity.

As for the nation comparison, which is actually even much easier to understand, should the people be allowed to forge the nation? Should the nation forge the people?

Because the question essentially amounts to: "Should people serve people."

As if they weren't the people wouldn't exist anymore.

The economy serves the people who serve the economy. The nation forges the people who forge the nation.

The nation *is the people,* and their culture.

They are the same thing.

People forge nations, if it's not for people the nation wouldn't exist.

These questions all amount to: "Should people serve people, or should people serve people?"

@Zayan Watchel I already stated what it boils down to

"should those people expect the economy to conform to them, meaning should it be built around their culture and society, or, should their society be built around the economy? "

If you try hard enough, you can break it down to what you just did, yes