Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿
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But the people aren't separate from the nation.
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I did say that. Funny.
The people are separate from the nation.
The people are a part of the economy, the people are part of the nation. They aren't the only thing in the economy/nation though.
If the Nation is the laws which govern it, and the people are constrained by, and disagree to those laws...
If all people died would a nation still exist?
Then the Nation is not working for the people.
Oh ok.
A people can exist without a nation
No, you're replacing the word "Government" with "Nation."
But a nation can't exist without a people.
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But a nation doesn't serve or disserve people, the government does that. The people and their culture are what makes up a nation.
So the people are a separate entity from the nation itself.
No.
I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm just pointing out that you're attempting to divorce the people from something the people themselves are.
@Zayan Watchel Except it does
I don't understand what doesn't make sense about it.
"But the all people are part of the economy."
Yes, should those people expect the economy to conform to them, meaning should it be built around their culture and society, or, should their society be built around the economy?
@Zayan Watchel
Then they have to be a separate entity.
As for the nation comparison, which is actually even much easier to understand, should the people be allowed to forge the nation? Should the nation forge the people?
Because the question essentially amounts to: "Should people serve people."
As if they weren't the people wouldn't exist anymore.
The economy serves the people who serve the economy. The nation forges the people who forge the nation.
The nation *is the people,* and their culture.
They are the same thing.
People forge nations, if it's not for people the nation wouldn't exist.
These questions all amount to: "Should people serve people, or should people serve people?"
@Zayan Watchel I already stated what it boils down to
"should those people expect the economy to conform to them, meaning should it be built around their culture and society, or, should their society be built around the economy? "
If you try hard enough, you can break it down to what you just did, yes
But it's going to take some effort to make such an interpretation
Well, if the Nation stops existing, do the people stop existing?
As in,you'd willfully have to make it
The people don't stop existing, they just lose a part of their identity.
Not really. The nation is a group of people and their culture. The economy is people attempting to use scarce resources.
People should try to work together, and support friendly competition.
To keep the cost of general goods down at a price that is affordable to those who need them.
They're both people. So asking who should serve who is asking "Should people serve people, or vice versa?"
While offering some luxuries to the middle class.