Message from @Muhammad Al-Tajir

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2018-11-28 14:47:34 UTC  

Islam is far too conformist. It leads to placing empirically invalid strictures as the highest of moral purity. This leads to stagnation. It makes sense, as a religion founded in a place where despotism will keep your tribe alive in a region where to fall off the path is to perish to elements and conquerors alike.

The placing of Truth, analytically and synthetically verified, is the double edged sword that gave the West it's power over the world, but also prematurely destroyed its traditions that held it together. Whichever society can manage a fusion of absolute Truth and social values that allow propagation and cohesion of the people will come to rule the globe and more. There is simply no competition.

2018-11-28 15:18:38 UTC  

nah

2018-11-28 15:18:47 UTC  

I think high schools always had issues

2018-11-28 15:19:10 UTC  

Tbh it's not like alcohol and sex are new things

2018-11-28 15:19:13 UTC  

^

2018-11-28 15:19:25 UTC  

I hear older generations did the same thing

2018-11-28 15:19:54 UTC  

It's been similar probably since the 60s

2018-11-28 15:19:58 UTC  

the only real thing that became more commonly widespread to my knowledge is drugs over the last few decades

2018-11-28 15:20:05 UTC  

otherwise everything is pretty much the same

2018-11-28 15:20:59 UTC  

Condoms and stuff like that wasn't that widespread before the 50s or 60s so people had less reckless sex

2018-11-28 15:21:25 UTC  

Alcohol has been missused in this country for longer than there is written sources

2018-11-28 15:23:03 UTC  

The difference is that older generations were chastised.

2018-11-28 15:23:50 UTC  

The problem with Islam is it is all or nothing package. @Muhammad Al-Tajir
There are good reasons to not be Muslims, which means you have to punish good people to establish order.

2018-11-28 15:38:00 UTC  

punish good people to establish order. do you mean fornication or gay sex?

2018-11-28 15:38:21 UTC  
2018-11-28 15:38:53 UTC  

in pauls writing it says rulers are only bad for bad people

2018-11-28 15:38:57 UTC  

but not for good people????

2018-11-28 15:40:04 UTC  

Punishing people for not conforming to Islam's other precepts which are just to protect the religion and not to punish bad behaviour

2018-11-28 15:41:29 UTC  

what are you talking about. in a 100% shariah place a people of another religion should be able to do its rituals and practice the religion

2018-11-28 15:41:38 UTC  

thats not the case today. or in some places

2018-11-28 15:41:49 UTC  

because theres no 100% shariah as it used to be back then

2018-11-28 15:42:19 UTC  

@Muhammad Al-Tajir shariah law allows the impregnating of children aged 9

2018-11-28 15:42:20 UTC  

Go on

2018-11-28 15:42:22 UTC  

they just pay jizya and thats it. if a muslim kills theirs the muslim will be executed

2018-11-28 15:42:45 UTC  

Read my comment for perhaps more clarity. It's moreso the abandoning of Truths that may be destabilizing that leads to despotic tendency and a lack of growth, with the benefit of regional stability of culture

2018-11-28 15:42:47 UTC  

@Doctor Anon sources pls

2018-11-28 15:43:24 UTC  

Several examples, like death for apostasy. Also, in Islam, there is virtually no possibility of a guaranteed propagation of religion.

2018-11-28 15:44:10 UTC  

Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).

2018-11-28 15:44:11 UTC  

there is no death for apostasy. but there is death for the apostate who goes against the state by attacking it

2018-11-28 15:44:23 UTC  

@Doctor Anon what the hell is taharrush

2018-11-28 15:44:30 UTC  

btw thats egypts ruling

2018-11-28 15:44:42 UTC  

@Muhammad Al-Tajir The line that separates that has been quite shaky.

2018-11-28 15:44:44 UTC  

show me where it says so in the sharia

2018-11-28 15:44:57 UTC  

@Doctor Anon That is not true

2018-11-28 15:45:00 UTC  

@Draco basically practice any religion you want. dont harm others

2018-11-28 15:45:15 UTC  

Woah woah

2018-11-28 15:45:18 UTC  

Hi

2018-11-28 15:45:22 UTC  

Wtf is going on here

2018-11-28 15:45:31 UTC  

and just you know. just dont go attacking the state or you'll be attacked as a result. thats our shariah

2018-11-28 15:46:01 UTC  

its not "kill them wherever you see them" like some dude who obv hasnt read the seerah of the prophet saws

2018-11-28 15:46:02 UTC  

Attacking the state often is sufficed by attacking the religion because there is no separation.