Message from @Bernard

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2018-12-07 16:54:54 UTC  

but it mentions corporate

2018-12-07 16:55:01 UTC  

Corporate is not the state

2018-12-07 16:55:08 UTC  

Definition of capitalism. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

2018-12-07 16:55:11 UTC  

As Att said

2018-12-07 16:55:12 UTC  

corporations exist as a result of state intervention

2018-12-07 16:55:14 UTC  

The free market

2018-12-07 16:55:17 UTC  

att isn't agreeing with you

2018-12-07 16:55:18 UTC  

Define corporation

2018-12-07 16:55:23 UTC  

that definition is not a good one

2018-12-07 16:55:26 UTC  

thats just one i found

2018-12-07 16:55:30 UTC  

that definition clearly says "determined mainly"

2018-12-07 16:55:32 UTC  

meaning

2018-12-07 16:55:36 UTC  

**there are other players**

2018-12-07 16:55:36 UTC  

@riacan Austrians , Chicago and Adam Smith agree with me

2018-12-07 16:55:38 UTC  

called "state"

2018-12-07 16:55:40 UTC  

where do you define a free market?

2018-12-07 16:55:41 UTC  

😂

2018-12-07 16:55:41 UTC  

Define corporation

2018-12-07 16:55:49 UTC  

surely a market is never free while the state exists

2018-12-07 16:55:53 UTC  

Free market is seperstion if state and market

2018-12-07 16:55:58 UTC  

```As used by right-wing apologists for “free market capitalism” (an oxymoron if ever there was one), capitalism is the source of everything good in the world — but also something that never existed. And it switches repeatedly back and forth from one to the other, every couple of sentences, in the same argument. ```

2018-12-07 16:56:02 UTC  

And capitalism is the free market

2018-12-07 16:56:34 UTC  

one can only guess you believe america is socialist then

2018-12-07 16:56:38 UTC  

god help us

2018-12-07 16:56:41 UTC  

No

2018-12-07 16:56:50 UTC  

wow but America is socialist u idiot

2018-12-07 16:56:55 UTC  

It’s not socialist but it’s definitely not capitalist

2018-12-07 16:56:57 UTC  

trump is a fascist and the fascists are socialist

2018-12-07 16:57:01 UTC  

sure adam smith totally agrees with you

2018-12-07 16:57:05 UTC  

which is why he said "The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state"

2018-12-07 16:57:06 UTC  

It’s close to a freer market

2018-12-07 16:57:09 UTC  

how can u separate state and market when the state automatically imposes things like taxation and property onto the market <:GWfroggyBlobThonk:400751075776397322>

2018-12-07 16:57:13 UTC  

As it’s rated free in the economic freedom index

2018-12-07 16:57:19 UTC  

@Bernard you’re missing the point

2018-12-07 16:57:20 UTC  

I see smith TOTALLY agrees with you

2018-12-07 16:57:25 UTC  

In a free market there is now stag intervention

2018-12-07 16:57:37 UTC  

@riacan our of context

2018-12-07 16:57:45 UTC  

He said the free market is capitalism

2018-12-07 16:57:56 UTC  

and he’s not referring to any economy currently

2018-12-07 16:57:59 UTC  

and support for the state