no but you see i say that freedom is capitalism, so it must be true

Capitalism is the separation of state from the market

except thats impossible

sure so the majority of capitalists throughout history are wrong and sideisnothere is right

never existed

gotcha

because the state is under the control of themarket

things like lobbying show that

Well as per Adam smith

yes lobbying for the state is not capitalist

Literally corporationist

Or infact socialism

how would you prevent lobbying or the establishment of a state like society?

Austrian economists agree with me

Definition of capitalism. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

Even Chicago

it honestly sounds like you read the definition of capitalism on some american capitalist propoganda on the side of a tin of beans

yes free market

LOL

You prove my point

but it mentions corporate

Corporate is not the state

Definition of capitalism. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

As Att said

corporations exist as a result of state intervention

The free market

att isn't agreeing with you

Define corporation

that definition is not a good one

thats just one i found

that definition clearly says "determined mainly"

meaning

**there are other players**

@riacan Austrians , Chicago and Adam Smith agree with me

called "state"

where do you define a free market?

😂

Define corporation

surely a market is never free while the state exists

Free market is seperstion if state and market

```As used by right-wing apologists for “free market capitalism” (an oxymoron if ever there was one), capitalism is the source of everything good in the world — but also something that never existed. And it switches repeatedly back and forth from one to the other, every couple of sentences, in the same argument. ```