Message from @ritasuma

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2018-12-07 16:52:39 UTC  

Capitalism is the free market

2018-12-07 16:52:44 UTC  

No state intervention

2018-12-07 16:52:49 UTC  

no, lmao

2018-12-07 16:52:51 UTC  

The countries above are free but are not capitalist

2018-12-07 16:53:04 UTC  

But for the sake of debate I’ll refer to them as capitalist when I do debate

2018-12-07 16:53:11 UTC  

But they are not capitalist

2018-12-07 16:53:16 UTC  

quite literally capitalist economics very rarely even advocate complete freedom

2018-12-07 16:53:24 UTC  

the state is almost always argued for within capitalism

2018-12-07 16:53:24 UTC  

They are not capitalists

2018-12-07 16:53:27 UTC  

by leading capitalists

2018-12-07 16:53:33 UTC  

did you read the defintion of mutualism?

2018-12-07 16:53:34 UTC  

yes they are not capitalists

2018-12-07 16:53:36 UTC  

both present and historic

2018-12-07 16:53:37 UTC  

no but you see i say that freedom is capitalism, so it must be true

2018-12-07 16:53:41 UTC  

Capitalism is the separation of state from the market

2018-12-07 16:53:47 UTC  

except thats impossible

2018-12-07 16:53:48 UTC  

sure so the majority of capitalists throughout history are wrong and sideisnothere is right

2018-12-07 16:53:49 UTC  

never existed

2018-12-07 16:53:49 UTC  

gotcha

2018-12-07 16:53:54 UTC  

because the state is under the control of themarket

2018-12-07 16:54:00 UTC  

things like lobbying show that

2018-12-07 16:54:02 UTC  

Well as per Adam smith

2018-12-07 16:54:12 UTC  

yes lobbying for the state is not capitalist

2018-12-07 16:54:17 UTC  

Literally corporationist

2018-12-07 16:54:20 UTC  

Or infact socialism

2018-12-07 16:54:29 UTC  

how would you prevent lobbying or the establishment of a state like society?

2018-12-07 16:54:34 UTC  

Austrian economists agree with me

2018-12-07 16:54:36 UTC  

Definition of capitalism. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

2018-12-07 16:54:39 UTC  

Even Chicago

2018-12-07 16:54:42 UTC  

it honestly sounds like you read the definition of capitalism on some american capitalist propoganda on the side of a tin of beans

2018-12-07 16:54:44 UTC  

yes free market

2018-12-07 16:54:46 UTC  

LOL

2018-12-07 16:54:48 UTC  

You prove my point

2018-12-07 16:54:54 UTC  

but it mentions corporate

2018-12-07 16:55:01 UTC  

Corporate is not the state

2018-12-07 16:55:08 UTC  

Definition of capitalism. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

2018-12-07 16:55:11 UTC  

As Att said

2018-12-07 16:55:12 UTC  

corporations exist as a result of state intervention

2018-12-07 16:55:14 UTC  

The free market

2018-12-07 16:55:17 UTC  

att isn't agreeing with you

2018-12-07 16:55:18 UTC  

Define corporation