Message from @Bogs_Bunny

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2020-05-07 17:37:52 UTC  

My 16” barrel is a 1:7, meaning it will stabilize heavier bullets better.

2020-05-07 17:44:43 UTC  

1:7 is better for heavier bullets in general? The higher twist rate is for lighter weight?

2020-05-07 17:52:58 UTC  

higher twist rates are better for heavier bullets. 1:7 is really kinda iffy with 55gr bullets but works fine with 62. 1:8 twist works well with just about anything you throw in an AR though

2020-05-07 17:53:22 UTC  

really the only reason not to have a 1:8 twist barrel is if you're using some crazy heavy ammo, like higher than 77gr

2020-05-07 17:54:06 UTC  

I have a 1:7 I'm but I'm running 62, havent shot it yet tho so we'll see

2020-05-07 17:55:40 UTC  

I thought 1:7 was the happy medium. Or was that 1:8?

2020-05-07 17:55:50 UTC  

1:8 is the happy medium

2020-05-07 17:58:59 UTC  

Guess I gotta run some chonk rounds lol

2020-05-07 17:59:04 UTC  

> @[VA] JediComms My favorite from vortex is easily the spitfire 3x prism. Clean, reliable, accurate, and easy to zero.
@Soulraiser I've been running a StrikeFire II on my 556 for a few years and haven't regretted that purchase.

2020-05-07 17:59:46 UTC  

Any tips for painting a rifle? Multicam style
Paint recommendation?

2020-05-07 18:00:31 UTC  

You should be running heavier rounds for defense anyway. Stuff like Hornady 75gr open tip match / boat tail hollow point. Its fragmentation is absolutely devastating

2020-05-07 18:01:27 UTC  

Hmmm Well, I may be mistaken indeed then. I'm still going to stick with my 1/7 QPQ aero barrel tho'

2020-05-07 18:08:01 UTC  

I run gold dots for defensive purposes, and 262 equivalent for offensive purposes

2020-05-07 18:10:29 UTC  

What do those decimals represent? MOA?

2020-05-07 18:12:17 UTC  

No they’re twist speed. Which literally none of use need to worry about unless you’re actually shooting well past 1000

2020-05-07 18:12:19 UTC  

Cali had another freedom week and stocked up on greentips

2020-05-07 18:13:28 UTC  

@Crye_Salesman No I mean where the rows meet. 1.8 2.8 etc. It says ideal is 1.5-2.0

2020-05-07 18:13:40 UTC  

green tip is pretty trash, though it's still about the cheapest barrier blind ammo you can get your hands on

2020-05-07 18:13:58 UTC  

tldr, all penetration, no fragmentation

2020-05-07 18:14:00 UTC  

Is green tip supposed to be AP?

2020-05-07 18:14:03 UTC  

nope

2020-05-07 18:14:32 UTC  

It's supposed to penetrate soft materials such as flesh and drywall slightly better than regular 55gr rounds

2020-05-07 18:14:52 UTC  

it will not penetrate any armor that regular 55gr won't too

2020-05-07 18:15:19 UTC  

Ah, ok.

2020-05-07 18:17:10 UTC  

HMMMMNNNNNN @Bogs_Bunny I don’t actually know?

2020-05-07 18:18:09 UTC  

Actually that couldn't be MOA. Cause under 1.0 is "bad"

2020-05-07 18:18:29 UTC  

Yeah green tip isn’t ap. Even M855A1 isn’t *actually* AP in the traditional sense, but it should penetrate M193 rated armor

2020-05-07 18:18:35 UTC  

That’s also just not how MOA works

2020-05-07 18:19:02 UTC  

by giving it a steel tip, they made it penetrate through body tissue better to more reliably meet penetration requirements and punch through stuff like car windows. However, by doing that, it naturally keeps it from fragmenting as well, but fragmentation is where 5.56 gets the majority of its lethality. Stuff like 75gr rounds fragment like crazy, doing a devastating amount of damage when they hit.

2020-05-07 18:19:19 UTC  

So it’s more lethal?

2020-05-07 18:19:19 UTC  

I’m assuming there’s more math there, and that number is a representation of a quantitative measurement of round stability

2020-05-07 18:19:40 UTC  

More lethal is a very relative term

2020-05-07 18:20:04 UTC  

With increased penetration that would decrease the chances of getting “stuck” and hitting vital organs, no?

2020-05-07 18:20:05 UTC  

Wasn't 556 an incapacitating round? Or is that a myth?

2020-05-07 18:20:14 UTC  

I’m legit just guessing so please tell me if I’m wrong

2020-05-07 18:20:55 UTC  

That’s extraordinary levels of fuddlore @Bogs_Bunny

2020-05-07 18:20:58 UTC  

also the numbers on the picture are the stability factor, which is determined by some formula

2020-05-07 18:21:08 UTC  

@Abe Clark yeah. If it has an exit wound it's not dealing all of its kinetic energy

2020-05-07 18:21:55 UTC  

Kinetic energy is pretty much irrelevant to lethality #

2020-05-07 18:23:12 UTC  

Well at least I'm learning. Lol.