Message from @Artemis

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2020-05-15 04:42:07 UTC  

Current inventory at distributor is 63 cases available. My cost is 800 plus shipping. LMK

2020-05-15 04:46:41 UTC  

Shipping should run Round 40 bucks

2020-05-15 05:31:45 UTC  

They tried armor that covers the stomach but it's so heavy and cumbersome that it was detrimental. If you didn't die from not being able to move fast enough, heat stroke would get you.

2020-05-15 05:35:26 UTC  

@BigRed1 what's green tip good for
Know fragmentation is low so lethality also drops
Is it better for shooting through things (not plates because I heard theyre not great for that) and at things (objects)

2020-05-15 05:56:55 UTC  

Light cover, like plywood, drywall, sheet metal, car doors, ect., don't really know why you wouldn't just run high velocity 77gr for barrier penetration though

2020-05-15 14:45:18 UTC  

Yea civilian market has unlimited ammo options

2020-05-15 15:04:43 UTC  

Or 62 Gn barrier blind softpoint

2020-05-15 16:39:06 UTC  

What do yall suggest would be the most applicable ammo to run? 556, 16" barrel

2020-05-15 16:40:18 UTC  

Yep

2020-05-15 17:00:07 UTC  

I just said it

2020-05-15 17:02:36 UTC  

What’s your twist

2020-05-15 17:02:45 UTC  
2020-05-15 17:02:56 UTC  

1:7

2020-05-15 17:03:17 UTC  

Heard heavier rounds are better for mine? I may be mistaken

2020-05-15 17:04:16 UTC  

62

2020-05-15 17:04:25 UTC  

55 is just fine though

2020-05-15 17:16:36 UTC  

1:7 is bettter for stabilizing heavier rounds. However, it will still throw 55 pretty decently. 1:9 is better for light rounds. And 1:8 is the lovely sweet spot that will throw anything.

2020-05-15 17:19:57 UTC  

Yea what he said ^ lol

2020-05-15 17:33:12 UTC  

For sure, I have 55 and 62, so I think I'm solid! Thanks guys

2020-05-15 17:33:24 UTC  

Anyone asking about ammo should reference the AR15 self defense ammunition article

2020-05-15 17:34:07 UTC  

Most asked question in here. This article will answer most questions.

2020-05-15 17:34:54 UTC  

62 will be more accurate than your 55, but it will still shoot both.

2020-05-15 17:36:26 UTC  

Accuracy isn't necessarily determined by weight, but quality and consistency

2020-05-15 17:57:37 UTC  

Yes, but heavier rounds with higher twist stabilize better over distance.

2020-05-15 18:15:28 UTC  

Yeah it'll maintain stabilization due to the extra mass, though the increased fragmentation is really where heavy 5.56 shines

2020-05-15 18:19:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704438047755862117/710919332015898744/75grchart.jpg

2020-05-15 18:19:56 UTC  

Looks like a grenade goes off in ballistic gel

2020-05-15 18:20:53 UTC  

Plus the ballistic coefficient is better but honestly you're probably not gonna be making shots out to 600 yards unless you're out in the country

2020-05-15 18:48:56 UTC  

Any of yall have experience with an M&P shield? Any good?

2020-05-15 18:55:06 UTC  

I’ve got two. I carry the .40 and my wife carries my 9. I won’t carry anything but an M&P. My AR is an M&P too

2020-05-15 19:34:47 UTC  

Imagine trying to pick all those bits out of a fellow meat sack

2020-05-15 19:57:07 UTC  

@[CA] SoyBoi The M&P Shield 9mm is my EDC

2020-05-15 19:57:33 UTC  

Love it, and can't beat the price point. I have more expensive guns, and the Shield is still my go to EDC

2020-05-15 19:58:01 UTC  

@Sparrow how is it concealed? No issues?

2020-05-15 19:58:29 UTC  

No issues at all for me. Depending on how deep I need to go, I think Sticky Holsters provide the deepest concealment.

2020-05-15 21:21:01 UTC  

Sticky holsters are poorly constructed soft nylon leg ventilators. Never trust one.
Better alternatives are phlster, darkstar gear, jm custom kydex, and keepers concealment.
M&P shield is a good carry gun. Slim but not unpleasant. Best carried iwb around the 4 oclock position. It's not big enough to be comfortably carried in an appendix holster unless you're wearing lower rise pants.

2020-05-15 21:22:56 UTC  

Though you can still carry it appendix, it just likes to flop a little since the barrel isn't long enough to provide good leverage and force the grip into your stomach.

2020-05-15 21:24:23 UTC  

Gotta reiterate though, ***soft nylon is never acceptable.***

2020-05-16 01:33:09 UTC  

I've been testing out appendix carry with the shield. Kydex holster.

It's not bad when I'm up and about, but is extremely uncomfortable if I sit, unless I pull the holster up pretty high, such that it sits on my stomach rather than at the joint.

2020-05-16 01:40:46 UTC  

What do you guys think of ballistic advantage uppers? Looking at their .223 Wylde 1:7 uppers for my AR.