Message from @minorthreat

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2020-05-09 01:03:45 UTC  

I say that myself quite a bit, but i typically am not using the same reasons many people who live around me do.

2020-05-09 01:04:07 UTC  

Given a half of my family, many say it because they really wont do anything else, not because ut works fine.

2020-05-09 01:05:33 UTC  

What is deistic world view?

2020-05-09 01:05:40 UTC  

I’m a Christian, according to Christ, he rebuked the Pharisees and Sadducees because they had forsaken the Commandments of God in favor of their traditions of the Elders.

2020-05-09 01:06:14 UTC  

Deistic means you believe in a creator, not necessarily God or Christ.

2020-05-09 01:06:57 UTC  

He also wiped out entire cities and the world for not bowing to everything he said much like a tyrant does

2020-05-09 01:07:16 UTC  

^^^^^ why I am not religious

2020-05-09 01:07:29 UTC  

It's morals.

2020-05-09 01:07:32 UTC  

Far from a believer in a higher power, but not religious

2020-05-09 01:07:33 UTC  

and ethics

2020-05-09 01:07:34 UTC  

For living in sin and disobeying the 10 commandments and killing others.

2020-05-09 01:08:06 UTC  

Morals define murder.

2020-05-09 01:08:22 UTC  

I genuinely can’t comprehend how anyone could pick up an abrahamic/biblical text and genuinely find them to be compelling enough to base their entire world view on

2020-05-09 01:08:30 UTC  

Clearly I don't think everyone has to believe in a God. But religion defines morals. Without it, what is good, and what is bad?

2020-05-09 01:08:38 UTC  

Aristotle

2020-05-09 01:08:52 UTC  

Common sense

2020-05-09 01:08:56 UTC  

Definitions, reciprocity, and general feelings

2020-05-09 01:09:04 UTC  

@minorthreat I could only wonder why he did that, have you even read Genesis?

2020-05-09 01:09:07 UTC  

Religion is completely unnecessary to establish morality

2020-05-09 01:09:22 UTC  

Religion gives terms, phrases, and structure to morals, it doesnt create it itself

2020-05-09 01:09:30 UTC  

I don’t need the Bible or commandments to know murder and envy is bad.

2020-05-09 01:09:51 UTC  

You have a god-given moral compass and your entire life is a miracle

2020-05-09 01:10:08 UTC  

The majority of it is nurture - what you see and are taught.

2020-05-09 01:10:31 UTC  

Religion can be the catalyst of that for sure

2020-05-09 01:10:41 UTC  

If you are basing your entire morality on religion, you don’t *actually* possess morality, you are just instructed that you will be punished for not following the rules.

2020-05-09 01:10:52 UTC  

facts

2020-05-09 01:11:04 UTC  

only thing stopping me from mass murder is religion

2020-05-09 01:11:06 UTC  

lmao

2020-05-09 01:11:08 UTC  

Religion and philosophy can coexist, see Aquinas.

2020-05-09 01:11:14 UTC  

Like for real, Sodom and Gomarrah were steeped and mired in sin, murder, homosexuality, devil worship.

2020-05-09 01:11:18 UTC  

They can definitely co-exist

2020-05-09 01:11:27 UTC  

>religion <:exPepeLaugh:610575316976533505>

2020-05-09 01:11:39 UTC  

I'm a practicing Mormon. Our pioneers got double penetrated by the feds on the regular, so they loaded up their guns and moved west so they could keep tearing it up. That resonates with me 🙏

2020-05-09 01:11:58 UTC  

I mean the feds horribly mistreated the LDS community

2020-05-09 01:12:05 UTC  

And they totally should. Power to them.

2020-05-09 01:12:09 UTC  

Their religion is still a cult tho

2020-05-09 01:12:31 UTC  

2020-05-09 01:12:35 UTC  

What religion isn't a cult?

2020-05-09 01:12:42 UTC  

The only difference between a religion and a cult is public acceptance and number of followers.

2020-05-09 01:12:46 UTC  

Like, 1/3 of them?

2020-05-09 01:12:48 UTC  

my dad's ex-mormon, my uncle is a mormon bishop. i will respect mormons themselves and their practice, but the organization of the LDS is absolutely a cult.