Message from @minorthreat

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2020-05-09 00:59:45 UTC  

I come from a southern baptist family. I’ve been through some shit and I’d have to say they’re almost as bad as Catholics..

2020-05-09 01:00:15 UTC  

As a Tennessean living in a small town, there are many local authorities run very much by gawd

2020-05-09 01:00:53 UTC  

The almost despotic "traditionalism" is astounding. Doing whats been done before because it was done before and no other reason.

2020-05-09 01:01:11 UTC  

>no other reason

2020-05-09 01:01:35 UTC  

You should see how they react to anything different than them.

2020-05-09 01:02:31 UTC  

I grew up religious and still am, but traditionalism is outdated and mostly idiotic

2020-05-09 01:02:31 UTC  

It is for no real reason. There may be real reasons they could have, but what you are told is the same shit

2020-05-09 01:03:06 UTC  

If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It

2020-05-09 01:03:11 UTC  

I am all for doing whatever works, whether its "old" or "new" dont get me wrong

2020-05-09 01:03:45 UTC  

I say that myself quite a bit, but i typically am not using the same reasons many people who live around me do.

2020-05-09 01:04:07 UTC  

Given a half of my family, many say it because they really wont do anything else, not because ut works fine.

2020-05-09 01:05:33 UTC  

What is deistic world view?

2020-05-09 01:05:40 UTC  

I’m a Christian, according to Christ, he rebuked the Pharisees and Sadducees because they had forsaken the Commandments of God in favor of their traditions of the Elders.

2020-05-09 01:06:14 UTC  

Deistic means you believe in a creator, not necessarily God or Christ.

2020-05-09 01:06:57 UTC  

He also wiped out entire cities and the world for not bowing to everything he said much like a tyrant does

2020-05-09 01:07:16 UTC  

^^^^^ why I am not religious

2020-05-09 01:07:29 UTC  

It's morals.

2020-05-09 01:07:32 UTC  

Far from a believer in a higher power, but not religious

2020-05-09 01:07:33 UTC  

and ethics

2020-05-09 01:07:34 UTC  

For living in sin and disobeying the 10 commandments and killing others.

2020-05-09 01:08:06 UTC  

Morals define murder.

2020-05-09 01:08:22 UTC  

I genuinely can’t comprehend how anyone could pick up an abrahamic/biblical text and genuinely find them to be compelling enough to base their entire world view on

2020-05-09 01:08:30 UTC  

Clearly I don't think everyone has to believe in a God. But religion defines morals. Without it, what is good, and what is bad?

2020-05-09 01:08:38 UTC  

Aristotle

2020-05-09 01:08:52 UTC  

Common sense

2020-05-09 01:08:56 UTC  

Definitions, reciprocity, and general feelings

2020-05-09 01:09:04 UTC  

@minorthreat I could only wonder why he did that, have you even read Genesis?

2020-05-09 01:09:07 UTC  

Religion is completely unnecessary to establish morality

2020-05-09 01:09:22 UTC  

Religion gives terms, phrases, and structure to morals, it doesnt create it itself

2020-05-09 01:09:30 UTC  

I don’t need the Bible or commandments to know murder and envy is bad.

2020-05-09 01:09:51 UTC  

You have a god-given moral compass and your entire life is a miracle

2020-05-09 01:10:08 UTC  

The majority of it is nurture - what you see and are taught.

2020-05-09 01:10:31 UTC  

Religion can be the catalyst of that for sure

2020-05-09 01:10:41 UTC  

If you are basing your entire morality on religion, you don’t *actually* possess morality, you are just instructed that you will be punished for not following the rules.

2020-05-09 01:10:52 UTC  

facts

2020-05-09 01:11:04 UTC  

only thing stopping me from mass murder is religion

2020-05-09 01:11:06 UTC  

lmao

2020-05-09 01:11:08 UTC  

Religion and philosophy can coexist, see Aquinas.

2020-05-09 01:11:14 UTC  

Like for real, Sodom and Gomarrah were steeped and mired in sin, murder, homosexuality, devil worship.

2020-05-09 01:11:18 UTC  

They can definitely co-exist

2020-05-09 01:11:27 UTC  

>religion <:exPepeLaugh:610575316976533505>