yes sure, in the moment

WHAT ELSE THEY WOULD DO WITH THEIR TIME

YES

in the moment, they know no better

THEY LIVE IN THE MOMENT

perhaps they cannot express their need

AND THE RETROSPECTIVE? NO AWARENESS

group hunts another excuse for excessive alcoholic hedonism

NO, DEFINITELY NOT

@The Enlightened Shepherd I LIKE THE WAY YOU ARE THINKING HERE

how could they be aware? the world seems to be geared to distract them

THEY ARE NOT AWARE, INHERENTLY

BUT

even the ones set to be aware

AND HERE IS YOUR ARGUMENT

I THINK

THEY RESPOND BETTER TO BETTER STIMULUS

are deluded

I.E.

TAKE THE PROLE OUT OF THE CUBICLE

AND PUT HIM IN A FIELD

AND YOU HAVE A MORE CHEERFUL AND HELPFUL PROLE

NOT BY A HUGE AMOUNT

BUT IT COULD BE IMPORTANT

more than that, give the prole a reason to live, ultimately, something beyond just symbol stripped of meaning, something beyond just "the way things are done"

A perspective of meaningfullness is a symbolic view of the world.

then even cubicles would be fine

it's not that cubicles are a problem in themselves

though they aren't nice

a subsistence peasant and a cubicle worker

the difference between them is not merely their immediate environment

the peasant had a different worldview and approach to life

life MEANT something else

even if this meaning is not something they can express

or even intuit

yet it pervades their existence

I think that in order to accept the idea that depersonalized consciousness is the essence of life requires the belief that the world is rational when it isn't.

the world is obviously rational

It's that that degree of separation from one's natural needs and fulfillments outlines the problem.

that you can understand the world

means it is rational