Message from @fallot
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are deluded
I.E.
TAKE THE PROLE OUT OF THE CUBICLE
AND PUT HIM IN A FIELD
AND YOU HAVE A MORE CHEERFUL AND HELPFUL PROLE
NOT BY A HUGE AMOUNT
BUT IT COULD BE IMPORTANT
more than that, give the prole a reason to live, ultimately, something beyond just symbol stripped of meaning, something beyond just "the way things are done"
A perspective of meaningfullness is a symbolic view of the world.
then even cubicles would be fine
it's not that cubicles are a problem in themselves
though they aren't nice
a subsistence peasant and a cubicle worker
the difference between them is not merely their immediate environment
the peasant had a different worldview and approach to life
life MEANT something else
even if this meaning is not something they can express
or even intuit
yet it pervades their existence
I think that in order to accept the idea that depersonalized consciousness is the essence of life requires the belief that the world is rational when it isn't.
It's that that degree of separation from one's natural needs and fulfillments outlines the problem.
that you can understand the world
means it is rational
representations we work with are rational
And so the problem is more apparent in cubicles.
maybe you mean "sensible by human measures"
the world is intelligible, rational, why is it not?
if the representations we work with apply, that implies something
rather, the representations are a higher level of reality
what you call representations are not merely thought forms
but the metaphysical level of reality, whose perception is subjective
The world is indeed rational. We've had a pretty good track record of explaining most things we've encountered.
but then even sight is to some degree subjective, not a big deal
an irrational, chaotic world, we cannot even comprehend it
those explanations always collapse
that we can COMPREHEND AT ALL
means the world is rational
Spectacularly
it is obvious existence is order
rather than disorder