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but I think you're broadly right about the religious ones, although Episcopalians are pretty god damn degenerate
I'm very sympathetic to religious positions in politics but I'm not ultimately very religious. I think it makes sense to develop a basis for a secular right. There are a lot of atheists and they all vote left
yeah im spiritual but not religious
I think any "secular right" is doomed to fail
it will eventually become leftism
lemme make a very basic argument to you
I won't be offended at all if you think its dumb or unworkable and it's also not very developed
please, I'd love to hear it
I don't necessarily disagree that any secular right will become leftist either, I want to explore that later
I think I've read this before, reading
you can skim the first part, it's just background
why don't you go on while I read
nah that's the argument.
so the argument is utilitarianism
is that right?
Maybe a derivation of utilitarianism.
But more of a law and econ point about transaction costs
this kind of pragmatic/utilitarian ideology will always fail, it is inferior to leftism
in moral terms
I agree
PC leftism will always be morally superior to it
My goal was to come up with a way to justify a secular right-ism
I think nationalism is a temporarily workable solution
I think the best argument is the transaction costs point, but I think it will always be eroded
basically an antichrist ideology that raises the nation to god levels
fascism++
that in theory could work for a few generations at least
the other argument I am still going to write at some point is basically Filmer's argument filtered through Darwin, which is that all authority flows from Fatherhood, which imposes a non-theological hierarchy
I don't agree that this is a non-theological hierarchy
as fatherhood must also proceed from somewhere
Filmer's premise was God as Father, but I think you could do with out that
if it is incidental, then this is just arbitrary
and argue that it procedes from biology
yeah, it has to be "God the Father" to work
to work well
to work okay, you can sub in Darwin maybe
I appreciate the procession from biology but