Message from @Human Sheeple

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2019-04-15 13:23:30 UTC  

Are you saying the only way we can accept something to be true is if you hypothetically tracked it the whole way around without any steps in between?

2019-04-15 13:23:32 UTC  

MODELS are a system of postulates

2019-04-15 13:23:37 UTC  

Postulates are a system of assumptions

2019-04-15 13:23:43 UTC  

Assumptions are a system of beliefs

2019-04-15 13:23:49 UTC  

A system of beliefs is a RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:23:53 UTC  

I thought we were talking SCIENCE here

2019-04-15 13:23:55 UTC  

Who thinks the earth is flat

2019-04-15 13:24:06 UTC  

@Superiorna_Artiljerija WRONG it's a measurement

2019-04-15 13:24:23 UTC  

@Human Sheeple You don't need to believe in an assumption to decide to test it to see if it is valid

2019-04-15 13:24:32 UTC  

Hello is the earth flat

2019-04-15 13:25:23 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:25:48 UTC  

Alright, @Dec knudssen (MRS x KILLS) has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-15 13:26:09 UTC  

The earth is not flat end off get a grip 🌏🌏

2019-04-15 13:26:38 UTC  

Ha

2019-04-15 13:26:42 UTC  

@Fading No, I'm saying that it's would be true if you could successfully falsify it by showing that 1) an orbital model sufficiently represents the observation and 2) any other model *wouldn't* sufficiently represent the observations. So far, you can explain planets by either an orbital model, which also assumes that planets have an orbit or that planets are some kind of wandering lights in the sky that happen to have a path. Using occam's razor on the two would yield that it's more likely that planets do in fact not have an orbit.

2019-04-15 13:26:56 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:26:59 UTC  

Here is the definition of a MODEL

2019-04-15 13:27:02 UTC  

SYSTEM OF POSTULATES

2019-04-15 13:27:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/567340124401172500/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190415162503.png

2019-04-15 13:27:10 UTC  

@Bannebie Number 2 isn't actually the case

2019-04-15 13:27:11 UTC  

Postulate means TO ASSUME

2019-04-15 13:27:14 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:21 UTC  

ASSUME means to PRETEND

2019-04-15 13:27:25 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:34 UTC  

In a simplified way, you pick the _best_ model with the most evidence and ability to predict (which is what testability is)

2019-04-15 13:27:34 UTC  

PRETEND means to make BELIEVE

2019-04-15 13:27:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/567340254269276180/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190415162630.png

2019-04-15 13:27:54 UTC  

So a system of postulates is a system of beliefs which means RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:27:57 UTC  

the GLOBE RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:05 UTC  

Sorry I'm not a member of your athiestic GLOBE RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:13 UTC  

I believe in SCIENCE

2019-04-15 13:28:19 UTC  

lol when you try to disprove religion using a dictionary 😂😂

2019-04-15 13:28:34 UTC  

You don't even understand what MODEL means

2019-04-15 13:28:39 UTC  

MODEL=RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:44 UTC  

Occam's razor, by the way, is not generally applicable to things like this

2019-04-15 13:29:36 UTC  

@Fading In the case where a model has suffient evidence to be proven, yes. But in this case one model has a ton of assumptions to be made for it to work, while the other one can be clearly observed without the need of assumptions. So in this case you can definitely use occam's razor to reduce it and say that the more simple explanation is *most likely* the true one.

2019-04-15 13:29:46 UTC  

Which doesn't mean that it's *definitely* the true one

2019-04-15 13:30:12 UTC  

God what happened

2019-04-15 13:30:22 UTC  

@Bannebie No I mean, Occam's razor doesn't mean anything in the case of talking about hypotheses. Simplicity is not an indication of anything

2019-04-15 13:30:43 UTC  

Aristotlian debate is futile in the realm of science. Experimentation is key.