Message from @パートナーキラー

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2019-04-15 13:27:02 UTC  

SYSTEM OF POSTULATES

2019-04-15 13:27:06 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:10 UTC  

@Bannebie Number 2 isn't actually the case

2019-04-15 13:27:11 UTC  

Postulate means TO ASSUME

2019-04-15 13:27:14 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:21 UTC  

ASSUME means to PRETEND

2019-04-15 13:27:25 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:34 UTC  

In a simplified way, you pick the _best_ model with the most evidence and ability to predict (which is what testability is)

2019-04-15 13:27:34 UTC  

PRETEND means to make BELIEVE

2019-04-15 13:27:37 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:54 UTC  

So a system of postulates is a system of beliefs which means RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:27:57 UTC  

the GLOBE RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:05 UTC  

Sorry I'm not a member of your athiestic GLOBE RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:13 UTC  

I believe in SCIENCE

2019-04-15 13:28:19 UTC  

lol when you try to disprove religion using a dictionary 😂😂

2019-04-15 13:28:34 UTC  

You don't even understand what MODEL means

2019-04-15 13:28:39 UTC  

MODEL=RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:44 UTC  

Occam's razor, by the way, is not generally applicable to things like this

2019-04-15 13:29:36 UTC  

@Fading In the case where a model has suffient evidence to be proven, yes. But in this case one model has a ton of assumptions to be made for it to work, while the other one can be clearly observed without the need of assumptions. So in this case you can definitely use occam's razor to reduce it and say that the more simple explanation is *most likely* the true one.

2019-04-15 13:29:46 UTC  

Which doesn't mean that it's *definitely* the true one

2019-04-15 13:30:12 UTC  

God what happened

2019-04-15 13:30:22 UTC  

@Bannebie No I mean, Occam's razor doesn't mean anything in the case of talking about hypotheses. Simplicity is not an indication of anything

2019-04-15 13:30:43 UTC  

Aristotlian debate is futile in the realm of science. Experimentation is key.

2019-04-15 13:31:16 UTC  

Occam's Razor is constantly used in foolish ways

2019-04-15 13:31:52 UTC  

Simplicity is an indication of what's more likely to be true when confronted with having to choose between a system that relies on multiple assumptions and one that doesn't rely on them.

2019-04-15 13:31:56 UTC  

The original intention was the serve as a guide to which hypothesis to test because it will be the easiest _to test_

2019-04-15 13:32:14 UTC  

It's simply a way to determine what's *more likely* to be true

2019-04-15 13:32:16 UTC  

Okay but in the case of an orbit, what alternative system requiring less assumptions do you mean?

2019-04-15 13:32:40 UTC  

The one that we can observe, motes of light moving in the sky

2019-04-15 13:32:44 UTC  

@Bannebie It's not really. It's no system, just what I feel to be more true.

2019-04-15 13:32:46 UTC  

That's an observation

2019-04-15 13:32:46 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:32:47 UTC  

Not a system

2019-04-15 13:32:49 UTC  

@Fading direct measurement

2019-04-15 13:33:06 UTC  

Subscribe to parry if ur a flat earther https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgq4F5bH9gP4sytkrpFJarw

2019-04-15 13:33:10 UTC  

Alright, @Bannebie has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-15 13:33:20 UTC  

@Human Sheeple The accuracy of that instrument is completely inappropriate for the scale we're talking about

2019-04-15 13:33:21 UTC  

That's what I meant, I think my wording was just inadequate

2019-04-15 13:33:52 UTC  

@Bannebie Okay, but then you've said nothing? Science is attempting to answer _why_ and orbits are a model that has been proposed and then repeatedly, exhaustedly verified

2019-04-15 13:33:53 UTC  

@Fading Well feel free to measure it yourself, here go to Ali Baba I even took the trouble to fill out the order form for you

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