Message from @Bannebie
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Well my point is our understanding of the planets and the orbits is based on several hundred years worth of observations and refinement to theories
So I was just wondering, do you disbelieve that data proves what people assume it does, or that's it's fake etc
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It's less that I disbelieve it and more that I believe it's based on assumptions which we can't directly test. Saying a planet has an orbit because it follows a certain path is a non-sequitur. A planet following a certain path simply means that a planet is following a certain path, you can't induct anything else from that.
But if that path behaves the way an orbital model would explain, you don't believe that to be valid evidence?
MODEL
Are you saying the only way we can accept something to be true is if you hypothetically tracked it the whole way around without any steps in between?
MODELS are a system of postulates
Postulates are a system of assumptions
Assumptions are a system of beliefs
A system of beliefs is a RELIGION
I thought we were talking SCIENCE here
Who thinks the earth is flat
@Superiorna_Artiljerija WRONG it's a measurement
@Human Sheeple You don't need to believe in an assumption to decide to test it to see if it is valid
Hello is the earth flat
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Alright, @Dec knudssen (MRS x KILLS) has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.
The earth is not flat end off get a grip 🌏🌏
Ha
@Fading No, I'm saying that it's would be true if you could successfully falsify it by showing that 1) an orbital model sufficiently represents the observation and 2) any other model *wouldn't* sufficiently represent the observations. So far, you can explain planets by either an orbital model, which also assumes that planets have an orbit or that planets are some kind of wandering lights in the sky that happen to have a path. Using occam's razor on the two would yield that it's more likely that planets do in fact not have an orbit.
Here is the definition of a MODEL
SYSTEM OF POSTULATES
Postulate means TO ASSUME
ASSUME means to PRETEND
In a simplified way, you pick the _best_ model with the most evidence and ability to predict (which is what testability is)
PRETEND means to make BELIEVE
So a system of postulates is a system of beliefs which means RELIGION
the GLOBE RELIGION
Sorry I'm not a member of your athiestic GLOBE RELIGION
I believe in SCIENCE
lol when you try to disprove religion using a dictionary 😂😂
You don't even understand what MODEL means
MODEL=RELIGION
Occam's razor, by the way, is not generally applicable to things like this