Message from @Dec knudssen (MRS x KILLS)

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2019-04-15 13:20:56 UTC  

They did NOT like his geocentric model

2019-04-15 13:21:00 UTC  

Well my point is our understanding of the planets and the orbits is based on several hundred years worth of observations and refinement to theories

2019-04-15 13:21:16 UTC  

So I was just wondering, do you disbelieve that data proves what people assume it does, or that's it's fake etc

2019-04-15 13:22:14 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:22:37 UTC  

It's less that I disbelieve it and more that I believe it's based on assumptions which we can't directly test. Saying a planet has an orbit because it follows a certain path is a non-sequitur. A planet following a certain path simply means that a planet is following a certain path, you can't induct anything else from that.

2019-04-15 13:23:13 UTC  

But if that path behaves the way an orbital model would explain, you don't believe that to be valid evidence?

2019-04-15 13:23:26 UTC  

MODEL

2019-04-15 13:23:30 UTC  

Are you saying the only way we can accept something to be true is if you hypothetically tracked it the whole way around without any steps in between?

2019-04-15 13:23:32 UTC  

MODELS are a system of postulates

2019-04-15 13:23:37 UTC  

Postulates are a system of assumptions

2019-04-15 13:23:43 UTC  

Assumptions are a system of beliefs

2019-04-15 13:23:49 UTC  

A system of beliefs is a RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:23:53 UTC  

I thought we were talking SCIENCE here

2019-04-15 13:23:55 UTC  

Who thinks the earth is flat

2019-04-15 13:24:06 UTC  

@Superiorna_Artiljerija WRONG it's a measurement

2019-04-15 13:24:23 UTC  

@Human Sheeple You don't need to believe in an assumption to decide to test it to see if it is valid

2019-04-15 13:24:32 UTC  

Hello is the earth flat

2019-04-15 13:25:23 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:25:48 UTC  

Alright, @Dec knudssen (MRS x KILLS) has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-15 13:26:09 UTC  

The earth is not flat end off get a grip 🌏🌏

2019-04-15 13:26:38 UTC  

Ha

2019-04-15 13:26:42 UTC  

@Fading No, I'm saying that it's would be true if you could successfully falsify it by showing that 1) an orbital model sufficiently represents the observation and 2) any other model *wouldn't* sufficiently represent the observations. So far, you can explain planets by either an orbital model, which also assumes that planets have an orbit or that planets are some kind of wandering lights in the sky that happen to have a path. Using occam's razor on the two would yield that it's more likely that planets do in fact not have an orbit.

2019-04-15 13:26:56 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:26:59 UTC  

Here is the definition of a MODEL

2019-04-15 13:27:02 UTC  

SYSTEM OF POSTULATES

2019-04-15 13:27:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/567340124401172500/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190415162503.png

2019-04-15 13:27:10 UTC  

@Bannebie Number 2 isn't actually the case

2019-04-15 13:27:11 UTC  

Postulate means TO ASSUME

2019-04-15 13:27:14 UTC  

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2019-04-15 13:27:21 UTC  

ASSUME means to PRETEND

2019-04-15 13:27:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/567340204235423745/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190415162618.png

2019-04-15 13:27:34 UTC  

In a simplified way, you pick the _best_ model with the most evidence and ability to predict (which is what testability is)

2019-04-15 13:27:34 UTC  

PRETEND means to make BELIEVE

2019-04-15 13:27:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/567340254269276180/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190415162630.png

2019-04-15 13:27:54 UTC  

So a system of postulates is a system of beliefs which means RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:27:57 UTC  

the GLOBE RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:05 UTC  

Sorry I'm not a member of your athiestic GLOBE RELIGION

2019-04-15 13:28:13 UTC  

I believe in SCIENCE

2019-04-15 13:28:19 UTC  

lol when you try to disprove religion using a dictionary 😂😂

2019-04-15 13:28:34 UTC  

You don't even understand what MODEL means

2019-04-15 13:28:39 UTC  

MODEL=RELIGION