Message from @iizziiee

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2018-07-03 16:30:42 UTC  

doesn't that just mean that Moses and Joseph sinned

2018-07-03 16:44:59 UTC  

I wonder that as well. You would think that that’d be made more clear, as God doesn’t take sins lightly. Even something as small as lying

2018-07-03 16:47:26 UTC  

I kinda see stuff like that as a "see, even these men weren't perfect like Jesus, they could never be" idk

2018-07-03 16:53:07 UTC  

I feel like the argument of "believers can't go with unbelievers" and saying that it is talking of race is a bit of a stretch.

2018-07-03 16:53:29 UTC  

It is indeed quite a stretch tbh

2018-07-03 16:55:23 UTC  

The only way I could see that working is if you were to use the example of the Israelites and the Canaanites. The Israelites were believers where as the Canaanites are always described as being immoral heathens. God even told the Israelites to slaughter them. But even then that doesn’t seem quite right

2018-07-03 17:01:14 UTC  

The way I see it, it doesn’t really sound to me like miscegenation is a “sin.” However, just because something is “permitted” doesn’t make it right necessarily. Race mixing is essentially ethnic genocide when done in droves like what we see today.

2018-07-05 01:14:31 UTC  

@slavwave
I think this is more of a theological problem in the context of the Torah.
I feel like whoever theorized ethno-nationalism on the basis of unyoked marriages being about culture and race have poor hermeneutical skills and are trying to interpret the Bible based on their pre-existing ideological views. I haven't seen the video yet, but I'm getting a bad taste of eisegesis from hearing the theory.

The reason the Israelites despised the other nations was because of their immorality, not their race; although, immorality and culture were closely related due to the perverted sons of God ruling as the spiritual gods over the nations. God took Israel as his own after he chose Abraham.
(Even they would reject God and worship the other gods later.)

If we want to argue ethno-nationalism, we shouldn't use the Israelite/heathen differentiation.
The reason God and the Israelites hated the other nations, according to my knowledge, was because they chose to not have God as their ruler. Thus, they fell into worshipping other deities and practicing horrific acts.

2018-07-05 01:23:00 UTC  

Acts 17:26-27

"**26** *And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, **27** so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us…*"

2018-07-05 01:27:20 UTC  

The coming of Jesus Christ (and thus his Holy Spirit at Pentecost) was to theologically reunite all under God much like they were before the Babel incident.

Since the perverted sons of God ruled over the other nations, God chose Abraham to lead them back.
Now through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob's seed, Jesus would come forth to unite the peoples whom God created to be one in him theologically.
Before that, it was Jew or Gentile; now, it is all one in Christ, as Paul says.

2018-07-05 01:33:30 UTC  
2018-07-05 22:32:21 UTC  

thoughts on quakerism?

2018-07-05 22:35:14 UTC  

Gibs rundown on that

2018-07-05 22:43:02 UTC  

you talkin bout the Quakers?

2018-07-05 22:43:31 UTC  

all I know is that they're pretty anti-violence iirc and there's a food brand named after em

2018-07-05 22:43:59 UTC  

Anti violence more like pro fag

2018-07-05 22:44:53 UTC  

Eh, I am unsure of their teachings concerning that but I seriously doubt homosexuality is tolerated in their circles.

2018-07-05 23:11:24 UTC  

hey, that's all i need. fuck protestant cucks

2018-07-05 23:11:50 UTC  

i went to a quaker school for two years and they seem really relaxed

2018-07-05 23:11:56 UTC  

they're orthodox, so that's cool

2018-07-05 23:11:59 UTC  

i dunno

2018-07-05 23:12:19 UTC  

gonna try a lutheran church first though

2018-07-05 23:15:09 UTC  

“Fuck Protestant cucks”

2018-07-05 23:16:20 UTC  

i dunno

2018-07-05 23:16:27 UTC  

might have just been the church i went to

2018-07-05 23:16:30 UTC  

but shieeet

2018-07-05 23:17:04 UTC  

This just in, your Pope licks the feet of Negroes and is a Jesuit (Jewish Roman Catholic)

2018-07-05 23:17:21 UTC  

Literally all sects of Christianity are Jewed

2018-07-05 23:17:52 UTC  

fuck dude

2018-07-06 02:16:08 UTC  

broke: being catholic
woke: being protestant
bespoke: not aligning yourself with any particular sect and realizing that you don't need a label to follow the teachings of the Bible <:bigbrain:385729869209665536>

2018-07-06 02:19:39 UTC  

That’s a very Protestant view tho lmao

2018-07-06 02:19:53 UTC  

That’s straight up priesthood of all believers

2018-07-06 02:45:13 UTC  

Reclaim our foreskins and faith

2018-07-06 02:49:28 UTC  

Not that I lost my foreskin

2018-07-06 02:50:43 UTC  

I did :(

2018-07-06 02:52:48 UTC  

Tfw intact American <:smug:378698410406051860>

2018-07-06 03:15:54 UTC  

Tfw intact Australian <:dingo:378698487996612618>

2018-07-06 12:10:31 UTC  

@Al_Bi Christ didn't come to give us a Bible and leave, He came to found a church in the ordination of his Apostles and the Holy Spirit inspired the Scripture outlining it

2018-07-07 19:56:07 UTC  

Compatriots. What are your thoughts on the idea of “keeping religion to yourself/having religion only be a personal thing”

2018-07-07 19:56:24 UTC  

^