Message from @Platinum Spark

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2019-09-11 21:02:30 UTC  

Makes it easier to appeal to people who are less on the extremes

2019-09-11 21:03:28 UTC  

Not shocking that when your elections become like a reality tv show, the guy who wins it is a reality tv star

2019-09-11 21:04:51 UTC  

I mean AOC (for example) is going with the Trumpian view that any publicity is good publicity (even if it makes her seem like a pretentious teenager)

2019-09-11 21:30:46 UTC  

Well, it fires up his base

2019-09-11 21:30:59 UTC  

But it fires up the progressive base too

2019-09-11 21:31:30 UTC  

And when your margin in mi is .3%, you can’t afford to fire up people in Ann Arbor and flint

2019-09-11 23:01:05 UTC  

@Platinum Spark I know the article is about approval ratings, what I said was that he was simply gaining more minority support in a general sense. Also I do not see how the article synonymized approval ratings with vote total, I'm pretty sure it does make a distinction between the two. These two things also tend to correlate, however, so it isn't wrong to say that if these numbers hold the very well can land him a second term, especially given the other things in his favor this time.

2019-09-11 23:02:33 UTC  

Unless there is something that I missed in the article

2019-09-11 23:10:21 UTC  

I will say though that it shouldn't have claimed that Trump has a certain victory, because it's still too early to tell for sure.

2019-09-11 23:17:17 UTC  

It really doesn't suggest that he's gaining minority support

2019-09-11 23:17:27 UTC  

it's also not a legitimate news source

2019-09-11 23:18:46 UTC  

It makes no claim on how many points it went up by

2019-09-11 23:19:03 UTC  

it straight up says those polls are considered outliers

2019-09-11 23:19:17 UTC  

and the numbers it cites are STILL very low approval ratings

2019-09-11 23:22:04 UTC  

It does though, it explains that both black and Hispanic approval ratings now have increased relative to the votes respective to these groups, and although these two things are obviously not synonyms they are still indicators of increased support.

2019-09-11 23:23:22 UTC  

I don't think it's a wild claim to suggest that if a person is receiving support then given things go smoothly this will be more or less reflected in the polls. But again, I do disagree with the declarative language in the article.

2019-09-11 23:24:28 UTC  

Also what exactly constitutes a "legitimate" news source?

2019-09-11 23:24:36 UTC  

it actually doesn't say they increased

2019-09-11 23:24:38 UTC  

it implies it

2019-09-11 23:25:14 UTC  

unbiased and, when you're talking about polls, statistically sound

2019-09-11 23:25:26 UTC  

you can tell from the beginning something's off with this article:

2019-09-11 23:25:42 UTC  

"despite shrill denunciations of the president by the Democrats for his alleged racism"

2019-09-11 23:25:54 UTC  

that's not something that a real news organization would write

2019-09-11 23:26:00 UTC  

that's what a conservative blog would write

2019-09-11 23:26:08 UTC  

and they totally have their place, don't get me wrong

2019-09-11 23:26:22 UTC  

but what they're doing here is trying to cherry-pick polls

2019-09-11 23:26:29 UTC  

look at this part:

2019-09-11 23:26:57 UTC  

"this, of course, which is why they have worked so diligently to discredit polls that confirm the president’s gains among minority voters."

2019-09-11 23:26:57 UTC  

GG @Platinum Spark, you just advanced to level 13!

2019-09-11 23:27:23 UTC  

Then not many things can be considered legitimate news, including CNN, Fox, and MSNBC

2019-09-11 23:27:55 UTC  

sure

2019-09-11 23:28:03 UTC  

I disagree with you, but sure let's throw out all three of those

2019-09-11 23:28:35 UTC  

when it comes to polling, 538 is probably the gold standard

2019-09-11 23:28:49 UTC  

but AP, WaPo, WSJ, NYT

2019-09-11 23:28:54 UTC  

these are real news organizations

2019-09-11 23:29:00 UTC  

CBS, ABC

2019-09-11 23:29:22 UTC  

here:

2019-09-11 23:29:38 UTC  

you can take a look at how media bias affects different news organizations